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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: libertytoall
If the sahara was a forest it would rain every single day.
The Sahara has not always been a desert. Why is it now?
But tell me, how much rain does the Pacific Northwest get? It's not equatorial, is it?
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: occamsrazor04
What I would take away is that while climate change is certainly happening, the doom porn surrounding it should be taken with a grain of salt.
To take the failure of worst case scenarios to have occurred as evidence that global warming is not occurring or is not a threat is nothing less than a promotion of ignorance.
To people living here? Maybe. We are a adaptable people. The Nile region was a vast green area that provided plenty of food 5-10,000 years ago. The Siberian tundra area would provide lots of food production if it was warmer.
The fact that people are dumb and tend to like to build cities on the worst possible locations is not the the planets fault. Why are many of the cities built on swamps, flood plains and river deltas? Yeh great flat areas, easy transport, but really BAD chooses if you really want to think about it.
originally posted by: c0gN1t1v3D1ss0nanC3
a reply to: Phage
Exactly. So it all comes down to the actual science, which when it comes to climate science, is far too corrupted to be saved.
You could take the data at face value, but we all know how easy it is to manipulate data. It all comes down to who you trust.
originally posted by: Syyth007
The raw data doesn't lie - A mash-up of clips from some sensationalist t.v. program doesn't discount the numbers. I don't know of any Climatologist that has claimed NYC will be underwater by 2015 - We are still a bit off from some of the more serious consequences, but if things continue to progress as they have, there will be a serious effect on the ecology of this planet within the next 100-200 years. It's all ready had an effect on weather patterns, on ocean currents, it's had a serious effect on numerous species of plant and animal life. The warming effect we are experiencing is but one symptom of a much more complicated, and seriously deadly problem we are facing.