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originally posted by: visitors
a reply to: namelesss
"Doesn't this 'effect' assume that 'history' is some static 'fact'?
Isn't such an assumption, shown by modern science, false?"
That's an important point, because indeed many people these days agree that nothing is really real. So maybe they won't get what the problem is with inconsistencies.
Let me put it this way - if you go home and leave your keys someplace, you expect them to be where you left them, correct?
We can't be having a reality that shifts about, when we're stuck in 3d bodies reliant on 3d being consistent. It'd be a different story if we could actually really do what lots of people say can be done - and entirely intentionally create our own personal realities.
But clearly that isn't something we can do. I'd think if anyone could do such a thing all the time, then why would they be online at all, they wouldn't need to be on forums chatting for example.
When you have a choice out of - infinity, then surely you can think up better things to do.
The other problem with the quantum psychology stuff, or the more rigidly reductionist science version that seeks to reduce the universe to somehow being just input of data to your senses, or worse, that your mind somehow just makes reality up!,
originally posted by: LilAmin2010
I only have two question
1.What are narwhal whales ?
2.Where are the kidneys located in the human body ?
please answer to the best your knowledge before you Google.
originally posted by: visitors
a reply to: namelesss
"No one 'creates' anything, much less 'Reality!
All we can do is to 'perceive' That Which Is (available to our perception).
There is One (unchanging, ALL inclusive) Universal Reality/Self! that we perceive uniquely every moment of Universal existence!"
How can you possibly think you know infinity enough to be limiting it to concept of only one 'thing' being responsible for everything that exists?
Someone must have created something, at some point.
Otherwise nothing would exist, and nobody would perceive anything. I very much doubt that one thing created everything, then decided to split itself into myriad different bodies or souls, and make itself forget it did so, all for the long drawn out 'purpose' of the 'joy' of rediscovering its decision to make itself ignorant and forgetful of its true nature.
Such a being would be crazy anyway, and is more descriptive of something like the gnostic concept of the demi-urge. It certainly doesn't describe me - I wouldn't find it enjoyable to make myself forget how I did anything or why. And if I had the ability to create a universe I can think of way better things to do with it than that.
On this planet, it makes a huge difference if you need to go left, but you go right instead. Or vice versa. There's a big difference between the north pole and the south pole - the north pole for example seems more 'attached' to some outside object that dictates aspects of the orbital nature of this planet.
Whether you point and go left, depends on what way your face is pointing. Your body has an anterior and a posterior. If you spin left, it is different from you spinning to the right. They're not the same.
originally posted by: visitors
a reply to: namelesss
You missed my point entirely, and I don't understand why as it was pretty clearly explained.
But you don't know that any of that is true. It isn't quantum mechanical at all either.
that then makes what you believe no more real than what I or anyone else believes.
But the difference is I'm trying to find explanations that actually match up with what knowns exist - I'm not going to ignore something because it doesn't fit my philosophy. I'll change the theory to match with the facts, not the other way around.
There is such a thing as reality - it's not your perceptions.
"Otherwise nothing would exist, and nobody would perceive anything. I very much doubt that one thing created everything,
This is a reply to your claiming one thing is all there is. Not possible.
I was trying to use logic to show you how there can't possibly be just one thing.
(technically there may be some people so masochistic that hell for them would be a heaven. But then they'd be completely messed up people wouldn't they, so the point there being they are not operating from a factual perspective. They'd be operating from a mix of mind control, and survival.)
There's no proof even intuitively that there's 'one reality'
, and again, how can you possibly claim to know all of infinity?
...to be again thinking it's possible to know the entire universe?
Or that you can't define anything without reference to the entire universe
- well you seem to be doing your version of it. By your own rationale you can't tell me how reality works unless you say you can reference it to - everything else.
I don't think you have thunk through that philosophy of what reality is and how it works very well, is what I am saying.
originally posted by: visitors
a reply to: namelesss
"I have spent more than three of your lifetimes in such studies, son.
I tire of your juvenile egoic gainsaying and emotional responses and, for some reason this site now seems to limit the words in my responses (bad juju!), so I'll clip the rest , and end it here.
I see no point in continuing this discussion, anyway.
You are not ready to learn, and you have nothing to teach me, so...
Happy trails...
"
See here we go again - your redhawk etc cult, stalking me on forums, calling me son, obsessed with trying to mind control me into accepting your false teachings, lying you don't have beliefs, punting yourself as a buddha or some eastern deity, calling me childish, saying I have nothing to teach you, posting how bored you are replying in the thread.....
you need to accept that merely by the fact I bother to look into things correctly with an actually open mind, that my theories outclass yours by miles. Lightyears.
You, or whatever puppets you, always do this same thing on any forums I'm at. You're like a spoiled brat that thinks I'm responsible for you - though you construe that by posting to me as if you're an adult and I'm not. I don't owe anyone anything, I realised how corrupt this world was early on and decided to definitely not have children in it, and I've stuck to that.
Your cult, or whatever you call it and think of it as, is exceptionally unevolved. I can't emphasise enough how stupid it is. I don't understand where you get the notion you're allowed to have your superiority complex over me from - while you go on about others egos...
if you examine it, you'll find it is based in nothing real that actually ever took place.
To re-emphasise,
"I have spent more than three of your lifetimes in such studies, son. "
Prove it. Prove how you know how old I am even. Tell the truth and shame the devil - if you dare. Bet you can't. Cause you sold out and you're a blue pill in't ya. Unlike me. I can't be compromised and can't be bought and can't be blackmailed. And nooo not because it was me that bought you or arranged such or anything of the kind.
originally posted by: Signals
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Nope, they're "Depend" now-
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