Homeless people to be fined up to £1,000 for sleeping rough.

originally posted by: funbox
a reply to: anonentity

so where do you see this all heading >?

funbox

Everything is a numbers game, but poverty to a large degree is a mental state, of depressed people trying to escape it, with a victim mind-set. since the laws are made by the rich to protect their wealth. Not much will be happening , anytime soon. If you are dirty and smelly, wearing rough clothes. Depressed and take drugs and drink to much, then ironically your only salvation is prison . The judicial system is now an industry, and a major employer, needing low IQ. fodder to justify itself . The present education system has been supplying the fodder since it liberalised. It had to go this way, as means of gainful employment, are constantly shrinking, to the point now where, if a young person can have an independent life away from his family its pretty rare. But basically the rich have got all the money , and eventually will have to pay for the mess that that has caused . They can do it willingly or the hard way, and that will depend on how high their IQ is.

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
It's so the can get them into jail due to non fine payment.....

It is, but not in a direct way, it is far more insidious than that. The police, directionally, are doing the right thing in their approach to homelessness. They move them on if they are behaving criminally or blocking access, or in areas when public drinking is restricted, they'll move them on from there. Otherwise, they live and let live and respect "life choices". This initiative is driven by the local civil authority in conjunction with commercial interests who find the presence of homelessness bad for business and want them out of sight as well as mind.

My own experience of working with the Police, in relation to attempts to build relationships with the homeless in the area that I live and work, that would have been mutually beneficial to Police and residents, was quashed by those with only financial interests in the area not residency. The councils in all tourist towns and cities belong to networks that combine the interests of tourism and commerce, naturally, but this is always to the detriment of those on the lowest rung of the ladder. There is little enough support for homelessness, particularly chronic homelessness related to mental health and dependency issues, some of these people are vulnerable in ways that are hard to perceive and understand, that's if they even get past their irrational fear and revulsion.

This "measure" is civil authorities trying to get the Police to get rid of the "problem". It is the slipperiest of slopes.

a reply to: anonentity

great points , the educational systems being overtaken by the corps *acadamisation*,the governments are wagtail to them , so how does the hydra eventually fall ? I doubt their ego's will allow whatever sensibility's they have left to relinquish their power and plans.

ahhh no easy path me thinks

funbox

a reply to: funbox

The problem is how do you define useful work, so people have purpose. Food production is mechanised, and what used to absorb 80% of the population in meaningful work now requires about 2%, products are now automated. Which basically leaves services . Meaningful work in a post industrial world has got to be defined, and I don't think it can. The political system is savvy enough to realise if they get about forty per cent voting for their self fulfilling policies, then that's all that's required to stay at the helm .The split off of votes to alternative parties will work in their favour . Theirs enough real wealth to keep half the population in jail. They don't vote in the charade.

Sounds like we are back to the days of Charles Dickens

Look to see this in every country soon thanks to the Corporate Globalists

originally posted by: artistpoet
So poverty is now being considered a crime it would seem.

Who ever is behind this proposed new law is only concerned with tourism being affected by unsightly and disturbing scenes of destitute people sleeping rough on the streets of the capitol of England.

Yet where is the concern for these destitute people of it's own nation ...

Kicking people when they're down.

They'll be issuing fines to pigeons and stray cats next, also known to frequent tourist sites.
Same odds of getting their money too.

Hackney council have shat it.

a reply to: EA006

Lol ... If some could they would

Unfortunately there is an element of society that puts profit before people
In fact I would go as far as to say there are those who see other human life as worthless
Let us hope that such one's are dealt hard lessons in what it is to be Human and learn some empathy

a reply to: artistpoet

Well said artistpoet, truth is those people of which you speak will never be taught a hard lesson regrading life simply because most come from money/privileged back ground. Fact is if they were forced to walk in those homeless peoples shoes for a week most of them would stumble, fall and not get back up.

They have no notion of how to survive outwith there own environment, yet they expect a significant percentage of our population to subside on next to nothing. And even propose fining the poor sods for what amounts to there simply existing.

Sad state of affairs really, especially so in this day of age. First world nation my left bum cheek.

a reply to: jacobe001

This is also true accept in this day of age all little Oliver Twist would receive in his bowl is a fine for £100 rather than cheep stew.