Homeless people to be fined up to £1,000 for sleeping rough.

Homeless people could be fined up to £1,000 for sleeping in doorways near popular tourist spots, under new rules launched by a London council. It’s not clear how destitute rough sleepers are expected to pay. Hackney Council’s Public Space Protection Order bans sleeping in public places – offenders are handed a £100 fixed penalty, which can rise to £1,000 in court. It’s not clear how destitute rough sleepers are expected to pay. Hackney Council’s Public Space Protection Order bans sleeping in public places – offenders are handed a £100 fixed penalty, which can rise to £1,000 in court.

Homeless people to be fined up to £1,000 for sleeping rough.



Came across this articular and i have to say im totally sickened.

Good luck with that approach as i imagine not that many people who are homeless have £100 never mind £1000. When will these moronic fools relies you cannot get blood from a stone.

It's so the can get them into jail due to non fine payment.....

And the investment banker that falls asleep drunk gets how much in fines . Oh im sorry , he has a suit on .

Is this more of your Conservative Government Policy?

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
It's so the can get them into jail due to non fine payment.....

If this were true how will they track them? They can't, in truth they have a hard enough time as it is locating people who have homes never mind people who move around.

This planet is vile.

a reply to: zazzafrazz

Tell you this any Police officer that attempts to implement one of these fines is just as bad as the establishment considering they are the tip of the spear and begin the process of criminalisation.

So poverty is now being considered a crime it would seem.

Who ever is behind this proposed new law is only concerned with tourism being affected by unsightly and disturbing scenes of destitute people sleeping rough on the streets of the capitol of England.

Yet where is the concern for these destitute people of it's own nation ...

a reply to: TheMadTitan

"If this were true how will they track them?"

Quite a few Police forces have portable fingerprint scanners linked to our national database. All they would need to do is scan the poor souls to discover there identity and the fact they have an outstanding warrant for non payment of fines. A fixed abode is no longer a requirement.



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a reply to: andy06shake
In a country with as much wealth as the UK,this is beyond disgusting.
It is crimminalizing the very worst off members of society,when we should be helping them with free hostels,drug and alcohol treatments and compassion.

NO ONE WANTS TO BE HOMELESS.

But,it can and does happen to people from all walks of life.
What a disgusting piece of discrimination by a country who claims not to discriminate against anyone.

People should get together and crowdfund a legal defence fund for anyone fined for being homeless.
Utterly shameful and fascistic behaviour by Hackney council.

Isn't Hackney a Labour run council?

Yes link to council representatives


More proof if it was needed that Labour are only in it for themselves, not the people anymore.

If I was homeless in London first thing I would do is walk out of the place and be homeless in the countryside.
They will be rounding the homeless up one day...

originally posted by: TheMadTitan

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
It's so the can get them into jail due to non fine payment.....

If this were true how will they track them? They can't, in truth they have a hard enough time as it is locating people who have homes never mind people who move around.

This planet is vile.

I dare say "Show me Ze Papers" is next for them...

a reply to: zazzafrazz

Most homeless people carry a form of identification on them simply because if they are harassed by our police force as to there identity and cannot produce evidence to prove who they are, then they can be detained until such time as their identity is established, sad fact.

How many Homeless in London?
Maybe it's about time the homeless moved en masse to the gates of downing street or Buckingham Palace. Arrest away.

this is not government. London is divided up in to several local council areas each can impose it's own by-laws
in this case hackney council who are using this horrid tactic to try and force the homeless to move to another district which makes them someone else problem.

it must be pointed out that IMO some local councils in London are rabid socialists and some policy's are borderline Stalinist
so this action is no surprise to me.

a reply to: andy06shake

Fingerprinting or DNA auto test kits will be delivered to a station near you soon......

originally posted by: stargatetravels
Is this more of your Conservative Government Policy?

No, as stated in the article (and others online) this is Hackney Borough Council. This has nothing to do with National government or political parties.

originally posted by: Flavian

originally posted by: stargatetravels
Is this more of your Conservative Government Policy?

No, as stated in the article (and others online) this is Hackney Borough Council. This has nothing to do with National government or political parties.

Since it's a Labour council, I'd say it does have something to do with political parties, well, one in particular.

its a sad state of affairs in jolly ole England it seems. Why not just euthanize them like stray dogs hell there only human being!!! sarcasm off. stuff like this just sickens me the way they can kick a man while he is down. I cant say anymore or i may break the T&C policy and go completely unhinged

a reply to: andy06shake

I have to agree with you, i am also disgusted by this. As you already referenced, the size of fine is ridiculous - they may as well have said £1 Million and be done with it......

The other thing is i have driven through Hackney a fair few times with work (on the random occasions we are in London) and from memory, there isn't anything that nice to "shelter from the homeless" anyway!