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vhb: Wait one minute here (thank you for your epistle infolurker I am not the scholar you are and rely on your good testimony to make sense of this). There is only one God that allows for its expression *the human* to describe Itself. This expression can include many disaplines (dogmatic form) that are allowed to fashion themselves to the particular civilization they address. Islam and Judaism do not worship the same god; this is faulty thinking within both; they actually worship the messengers; Abraham and Mohammed. One could say the same of Christianity's sanctity of Jesus. There is a higher force and no one seems to recognize it as the creator of the messengers of wisdom.
infolurker: Incorrect.
YWHW (Yahweh) is the creator.
Allah, Hubal, Baal is what is called a "false god". (See Book of Enoch, book of jubilees, book of giants)
infolurker: The "old false pantheons" had many names when Nimrod's empire was forced to spread out over the planet and their languages confused. The same "Watcher Fallen Angels" which made up the "Pantheon of Gods" of numerous cultures all started with the ONE Culture after the flood. Nimrod of Babylon. This "Mystery Religion" has continued through that ages and is still here today
vhb:
There is only one God that allows for its expression; to describe itself. This expression can include many disaplines (dogmatic form) that are allowed to fashion themselves to the particular civilization they address. Islam and Judaism do not worship the same god; this is faulty thinking within both; they actually worship the messengers; Abraham and Mohammed. One could say the same of Christianity's sanctity of Jesus. There is a higher force and no one seems to recognize it.
KinghtLight: Thank you for posting that. Glad you are still watching this.
It's why they say God is dead.. The Fool on the Hill in the beatles song of the same name.. He can hear God talking perfectly loud. All the other people never hear it.. I wondering how many of us have gotten to a point that we know what's up now?
KnightLight: They don't want you to know.. "They" don't want your name called.
Jack in LOST, he becomes the guardian of the "earth" Something of a arch angel Michael character.. There is Always one guardian (in Lost).. Jacob dies, and passes it on to Jack.. But it makes this weird thing we are even more interesting..
I can't tell if this makes it a higher stakes game or a lower stakes game..
originally posted by: vethumanbeing
What went wrong within this metaphoric idea form. Two brothers fighting against each other to create separate dogmatic belief systems. Someone has to win? The two are dueling it out in/to this day.
infolurker: Are you one of the Jose Luis De Jesus Miranda followers or something?
You make absolutely no sense.
infolurker: As I mentioned before, Since the begining, The Serpent tempted Eve by promising that they "could be like God, and surely not die if they rebelled". (that didn't work out well).
It is the same throughout history and today. We can become like "gods" here in this corrupted world. Same Lie, Same promises, same gullible idiots striving to serve their master in their quest to become gods, (Trans-humanism, Ascended Masters, Whatever ).
infolurker: The need to refuse salvation freely given in order to become immortal in a corrupted world.... it is a lie.
The same lie from the beginning of time is still being used today. Never fails.
The same lie / quest to be like the most high without the most high. Doomed to failure.
infolurker: Accept the free gift of Salvation through Yeshua Hamashiach (Jesus Christ), the risen son of the almighty who paid the price for sin and rebellion with his own blood for YOU. Choose life not sin, corruption, decay, and death of this corrupt world.
originally posted by: FlyersFan
I'd like someone to prove to me that Abraham even existed. Prove that the stories about him weren't just folklore made up over the thousand years between when he supposedly lived and when the stories were finally written down. Good luck with that.
vhb: What went wrong within this metaphoric idea form. Two brothers fighting against each other to create separate dogmatic belief systems. Someone has to win? The two are dueling it out in/to this day.
Rex282: Abraham 1st son was Ishmael born of his wife Sarah's handmaiden Hagar.Abraham's 2nd son Issac was born of his wife Sarah. Neither Ishmael or Issac started Islam or Judaism respectively.The scriptures are so clear on this FACT there is ZERO credible refutation.
Issac's son Jacob became Israel and he did not create Judaism either .For that fact neither did Israels son Judah.As for Ishmael starting Islam that is pure religious BS.Ishmael and the beginning of the religion of Islam are separated by thousands of years.
originally posted by: KnightLight
a reply to: vethumanbeing
It's going to be hard for people to get what you are saying...
But I like your effort. Very solid, and moving forward.
originally posted by: vethumanbeing
Thank you KnightLight for your kind words. Attempting to address a truth as I know it would be difficult to convince others of their truths as being wrong; (we have options regarding belief systems and should). I am just looking for good debates (what do you know I do NOT). I am curious as to others experiences regarding their relationship to historical metaphor or a different understanding of what I/you perceive as a God figure/creator. Fascinating.
KnightLight: I lost interest in Answers when I started asking better questions.
I wish I could debate better in this thread, it's just something I didn't think or know or believe, until recently.
And yes I like the way your are posting trying to keep the train chuggin. There are Countless stories.
KnightLight: B.o.B hip hop artist. He called it "the adventures of bobby ray." w
Ludacris hip hop artist. He called it "Ludaversal."
I [to the idea from Egyptian myths first]. LOST then vampire diaries, then the Originals..
I like to mix and match as many as I can..
Create a Higher definition Version..
KnightLight: Answers Don't make you grow... Like a good critical think session, or a journey.
Soul Quest
Why is the serpent demonized; the only thing it did was to tell the human not be slaves of God and eat of enlightenment (this is all metaphorical) and not really true.
We are mini gods, we are its expression whether we like it or not (it relies upon us to explain ITS own existence); the creation explains to the creator the event. Salvation from what? I am my own salvation. I will not be enslaved in another's belief/ idea form (Jesus, Mohammed, Siddhartha).
I am not an original sinner; I am of a God construct (I KNOW IT and IT KNOWS ME) individualized. For me DOGMA? not a gift; a YOKE created by humans to trick or enslave itself; there is a higher being I ascribe to and it is not Yahweh.
originally posted by: KnightLight
a reply to: vethumanbeing
Me..
I am just telling stories at the moment.. Might add comedy or music or paintings as I go. My stories have been a little lacking in color, which is why I borrow so many others.
I have a whole new life.
Choo Choo Choo.
infolurker:Thought so.
Mini god who is his own salvation who thinks the serpent in the garden was the good guy... LOL
And yes, I believe you when you say you are a follower of the one who would exalt himself above the throne of God.
vhb:
Why is the serpent demonized; the only thing it did was to tell the human not be slaves of God and eat of enlightenment (this is all metaphorical) and not really true.
We are mini gods, we are its expression whether we like it or not (it relies upon us to explain ITS own existence); the creation explains to the creator the event. Salvation from what? I am my own salvation. I will not be enslaved in another's belief/ idea form (Jesus, Mohammed, Siddhartha).
vhb: I am not an original sinner; I am of a God construct (I KNOW IT and IT KNOWS ME) individualized. For me DOGMA? not a gift; a YOKE created by humans to trick or enslave itself; there is a higher being I ascribe to and it is not Yahweh.
infolurker: You were born into a corrupt world. For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.
Do you understand that your comments are directly identical to what an Illuminated Luciferian would say and believe?
I beg you, open your eyes and cast off the deception of the ages. You cannot become a God in this corrupt construct which has been the lie promoted since the Garden.
Rex282: The problem with your logic is you are painting the sands of the desert with a HUGE brush filled with gray paint so it is all meaningless.If you are trying to communicate Truth it would help to at least know a few basic facts instead of moving the goal posts to wherever you want then say......Play ball….my rules!!.
Rex282: It is a racist remark to say Ishmael is the “father of the “Arabs”.That has ZERO basis in fact.That is Christian religious rhetoric to stir the pot of hatred against those damned Muslims and is just complete BS lies story telling be damned.
Rex282: Even though your post are always humorous they just paint you as being a non credible person which I am sure is not your intent but it is the result.I used to laugh with you now you force me to laugh at you while pitying you.Please stop so I can at least laugh with you again(and there is a LOT to laugh at!).
Rex282: I have zero problem with what people want to think however this crap is just ridiculous.My suggestion is stick to the comedic quips and sardonic humor that poke fun at the ludicrous religions of man.This stuff is sophomoric and worse moronic.I hoped you were better than that.