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originally posted by: Shiloh7
a reply to: DrunkYogi
I have come to the conclusion that any of the desert religions are really not for men at all ,because they attract the most ugly minded, perverse men one can come across. Fine for the ladies who seem to handle it without the vicious tendencies, but for men just look at who groups like the jesuits attract and also the greed or the lust for unelectd power.
originally posted by: DrunkYogi
a reply to: luthier
LOL. I will post this video again. Do yourself a favor and watch it. These powerful people, Abraham Lincoln etc, knew what the Jesuit organization really was and the danger they posed to the world.
originally posted by: luthier
I am sorry but your just ignorant my friend.
Jesuits are scientists.
Look up a thing called the big bang theory. Who came up with it?
The list of jesuit scientist priests is huge. You obviously know nothing of catholocism besides conspiracy quack pot theories. Its a flawed religeon but within it are some extremely deep thinkers, philosophers and scientists.
Jesuits are a black thorn to the church and have always been. This is the very first Jesuit pope ever.
Again you post crazy videos the powers that be love to propagate so you take your eye off the real people.
Half the organizations you named were formed to have groups to talk about philosophy other than the church. They were secret groups talking about science and philosophy to not be sentenced to death by the vatican. The jesuits skated that line and were sometimes executed by the church for it.
Pick up some real books mate. Lots of them so you get a better picture than finding one crwzy source and running with it.
And no kidding they own hospitals and daycares kindagartens and schools. Thats where they teach, feed, and treat the poor and homeless no one else cares about.
originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
originally posted by: luthier
I am sorry but your just ignorant my friend.
Hmmm...
Jesuits are scientists.
Hmmm....
Look up a thing called the big bang theory. Who came up with it?
Let me guess: Jesuits? Please. I guess Jesuits built the pyramids and spawned humanity too?
The list of jesuit scientist priests is huge. You obviously know nothing of catholocism besides conspiracy quack pot theories. Its a flawed religeon but within it are some extremely deep thinkers, philosophers and scientists.
There is no us or we attacking you here. You may feel alone with your hard-earned views and knowledge, I understand you, it's only natural, but so do I, and so does probably the person who started this thread and everybody else. It's the curse of intelligence. Unless some of us are in the same fraternity or order with a common agenda, working like a pack, say Jesuits or the bloody JW. That a religious order recruit their members among scientists doesn't make them all scientists.
Jesuits are a black thorn to the church and have always been. This is the very first Jesuit pope ever.
I'd say that'd count as an omen. The sitting pope is to be the last pope if we are to believe st. Malachy...
Again you post crazy videos the powers that be love to propagate so you take your eye off the real people.
And you saw me post a crazy propaganda video, where? Please, come out from the corner there, you are not alone, and I and the rest of ATS are not here to persecute you or work against you. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and if your knowledge is good, I'm sure that some people here would agree to some of your stuff and support you. Just quit whining about little me against the rest of the world. That is not how things work. Grow up, take a stand and kick ass.
Half the organizations you named were formed to have groups to talk about philosophy other than the church. They were secret groups talking about science and philosophy to not be sentenced to death by the vatican. The jesuits skated that line and were sometimes executed by the church for it.
Pick up some real books mate. Lots of them so you get a better picture than finding one crwzy source and running with it.
And no kidding they own hospitals and daycares kindagartens and schools. Thats where they teach, feed, and treat the poor and homeless no one else cares about.
You are talking to somebody else here. I didn't list any organisations, I mentioned the Knights of Malta (former Johannite Order). And to your last paragraph there, Jesuits don't teach, they fund. If I were filthy rich and built a hospital and a school and a university. Now what would that make of me, other than me being filthy rich— overly generous perhaps? Building a university doesn't make me a scientist.
originally posted by: Achilles92x
a reply to: Utnapisjtim
Your bias against God and religion is clearly blinding you. I did not claim that being priests makes these scientists or intellectuals superior. I was simply reinforcing Luther's statement about the Jesuit man who developed the Big Bang Theory.
originally posted by: kaiel
I have never seen such BS in my life. Why not focus on the right wing christian religions that attack science and wish to stop evolution from being taught in schools. The Catholic church is much more accepting and rational than say the 7th day adventists or other such christians. You found a few youtube videos and that represents your proof...
here is some actual facts for you...
"Among Catholic contributors to the development of evolutionary theory were, the Jesuit educated French scientist Jean-Baptiste Lamarck (1744-1829) and the Augustinian monk Gregor Mendel (1822-1884). Lamarck developed Lamarckism, the first coherent theory of evolution, proposing in Philosophie Zoologique (1809) and other works his theory of the transmutation of species and drawing a genealogical tree to show the genetic connection of organisms.[6]
Mendel joined the Brno Augustinian Monastery in 1843, but also trained as a scientist at the Olmutz Philosophical Institute and the University of Vienna. The Brno Monastery was a centre of scholarship, with an extensive library and tradition of scientific research.[7] At the monastery, Mendel discovered the basis of genetics "
originally posted by: Ignatian
"The Vatican is a danger to all life on this planet with their Apocalyptic vision" (DrunkYogi)
If I were to make the mistaken assumption that you even knew what this "vision" was, why exactly would you disagree with that "vision"?
Again, if I were to foolishly believe you had even a clue what The Catholic Church actually is as an institution, and how it was started, I could only conclude one of three things.
1. You are a minion of the evil one, the great deceiver, the father of lies. Satan
2. You are invincibly ignorant.
3. You truly are drunk.
Jesuits are wealthy!? *spit-gag*. Have you ever even met a Jesuit priest?