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originally posted by: ISeekTruth101
originally posted by: Snarl
originally posted by: ISeekTruth101
Islam is a way of life ...
It is a religion ...
See? You're as confused as I am. LOL
Can you elaborate on the confusion?
originally posted by: Snarl
originally posted by: ISeekTruth101
originally posted by: Snarl
originally posted by: ISeekTruth101
Islam is a way of life ...
It is a religion ...
See? You're as confused as I am. LOL
Can you elaborate on the confusion?
Is Islam a religion or is it a way of life? Who's to say when a Muslim is simply practicing religion or enforcing a way of life?
originally posted by: ISeekTruth101
a reply to: Forensick
Actually, this thread does echo the general tone, and impressions of Islam prevalent on ATS today. And one only needs to do a simple internet search to get an overall 'feeling' of how Americans perceive Muslims, and Islam.
Now is this because the informed US citizen is not making their voice heard in denouncing what ignorant US citizens are saying about Islam? I haven't heard much from them.
So I will continue to address things the way I currently see them.
originally posted by: amicktd
originally posted by: ISeekTruth101
a reply to: Forensick
Actually, this thread does echo the general tone, and impressions of Islam prevalent on ATS today. And one only needs to do a simple internet search to get an overall 'feeling' of how Americans perceive Muslims, and Islam.
Now is this because the informed US citizen is not making their voice heard in denouncing what ignorant US citizens are saying about Islam? I haven't heard much from them.
So I will continue to address things the way I currently see them.
Yep, I am American. I don't hate either religion. I honestly wish ATS would get rid of the religious forums since all I ever see is arguments that are equivalent to 13 year old mentality. I believe you find most hatred on the internet, because its easy to be a hard-ass behind a keyboard. Doubt most would have the balls to say these things to someones face.
But the fact that misinformed people are here on ATS, and discussing the topic at hand, opens up the opportunity for misconceptions to be rectified, and knowledge to be exchanged in an attempt to broker peaceful relations and understanding
It was a great idea at it's core, but it doesn't negate the fact that the United States was founded on Christian beliefs nor does it imply that the founders had any greater respect for other religions including Muslims, Jews, Hindus or Satanic cults, etc. This is a historic fact and to say otherwise is either ignorant of history or an outright lie meant to confuse or deflect from the truth. The same can be basically said about English as our national language, even though a specific national language was never claimed.
To some modern historians, “deism” is too simple a term to describe the complexity of the belief system of some Americans in the 1700s. The Reverend Thomas Buckley, SJ, professor of American religious history at the Jesuit School of Theology at Berkeley, said that belief is more complex than saying a person shrugged off Christianity and put on deism: “Too many historians keep calling the ‘founding fathers’ Deists. Even Thomas Jefferson on his worst days was not one of their ranks.” A better term than deist for most of them, Buckley said, is “rationalistic Christian.” Agreement on that point comes from Dreisbach, who said he thinks “there were relatively few Deists in America. There were a few elites who gravitated to a form of theistic rationalism, but we’re talking about a relatively few, albeit influential, elites.”
originally posted by: Bigburgh
originally posted by: proob4
I think "Muslims" Have a duty to stop all the nonsense if they want to. They should be inside fighting on their own if this is a peaceful religion as it it claimed? It's not and these assholes will stop at no end to disrupt any Christian way of life.
Seriously Islam is the enemy of all mankind.
Muslims if you are peaceful prove it. Fight your war and quit threatening everyone else in the meantime, or just kill yourselves already.
Jesus Proob... hey Charlie S!? You here?
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck
Using this rationale then we can make the same argument about "All men are created equal" since the founding fathers really meant "All white, landowning, and English speaking men are created equal". Clearly we weren't meant to make anyone else equal right?
No one back then believed that other religions had an equal footing with Christianity just like no one believed that all humans were created equally as they still owned slaves at that time.
originally posted by: KawRider9
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs
You're a good dude in my book. I'd have a beer with ya. Well, I guess I'd buy you a tea or something.
I think "Muslims" Have a duty to stop all the nonsense if they want to.
They should be inside fighting on their own if this is a peaceful religion as it it claimed?
It's not and these assholes will stop at no end to disrupt any Christian way of life.
Seriously Islam is the enemy of all mankind.
Muslims if you are peaceful prove it.
Fight your war and quit threatening everyone else in the meantime, or just kill yourselves already.