Kidnaped by doctors!!!

I’m mad, need to rant a lill

So I was feeling ill for 3 days, Tuesday I was feeling bad, some time ago I had a candidiasis that almost killed me and I though it may be the same again so against my better judgment I went to the ER. in that brief relief you get between puke and puke, I told the doctor what happened to me before and that I thought it was the same again, nevertheless she makes an eco, that’s ok be thorough I guess, she thinks I got little stones in my gallbladder, she is not sure so want me to stay overnight to make another eco in the morning.

Next day, 7 am pretty doctor tells me its eco time and ill be leaving that day, eco operator says I got nothing, they haven’t give me a single medicine in all day other than my insulin, which I would gave myself at home anyways, and around noon come the accountant lady, I don’t got all my info with me so it appears I will have to pay with cash and get a refund by the insurance company…

Appearing to have to pay in cash seems to change your medical outcome in a moment, because from not having anything in the eco, being diabetic and having always under 200 the glucose, and no longer feeling ill, suddenly I cannot leave the hospital, because I’m using too much insulin… how much is too much if it’s what you need to be not dead?

So time passes, no one tells me anything, I’m just bored waiting for them to remove the IV needle that is doing anything, I don’t even got saline solution on, after 5 hours I ask the nurse when can I leave, she points to the doctor, I ask the doctor (im roaming free the hospital that’s how sick I am) she tells me that I have an infection, according to white blood cells, well I told her I fear I had candidiasis, which also happens to have the same effect, so I for this I should stay just another night to get a blood test in the morning.

Today, day 3 of which only 1 they actually gave me a medicine to stop vomiting, I wake up, nurse takes blood, she just handle me the insulin, as if I’m going to take the pen home, I get breakfast, eggs and all, when the other day was a bread and butter only, so I’m sure I’m leaving, then a lady comes and ask what I’m going to have for lunch, I was like what? Ok maybe I’m being release after lunch… before I finish breakfast another doctor comes and tell me because I have my glucose high I will stay another day.

What the hell, I’m a poorly controlled diabetic, that its not an emergency, the damn glucose has been hovering between 140-180 after meals, don’t you want to kick me out and give the bed to someone that need it?

I feel like a golden egg goose, un insurance already sign hospital papers yesterday, I thought I was leaving, the communication is scarce, they don’t tell me things straight, if I have an infection why I am not receiving meds for it.

I hate doctors

Doctors do not run hospitals / the guys and girls in admin run things and they want your $$$.

Your health is not really important to them. Even your death brings $$$.

Sign yourself out!

Take a pic of your chart before you leave, just in case. Always take a pic of your chart. You just never know when your lawyer will need it.

P

a reply to: Indigent

Are you in the US , gotta love that system you have there . 3 days , and your health insurance takes up how much of your income . Wonder why .

a reply to: hutch622

no, i'm in Germany not even my country

a reply to: Indigent

So you are travelling there . Travel health insurance is a bitch . Not sure how it works in Australia with travellers from overseas it might still be free , im pretty sure it is if you are from a commonwealth country . When i visited the US a long time ago it was recommended to have 2 million in health insurance and that was in the 80s .

a reply to: hutch622
$2 million? Damn, I have been shot and broke up in car accidents and 23 major surgeries at our Trauma 1 Hospital and all of it was around $1.25 mil. I guess they are expecting some really bad things for tourists over here. BTW, I was shot in Dec. 2001 and had surgeries until Feb 2003. So, I don't know what they think might happen, but I wouldn't have stayed in a foreign country for a year and a half having surgeries either. I could have traveled home after a couple of months and about 5 surgeries. Your government must think the streets here are like the wild west or something. Oh, I was shot in my bed at 3AM by my ex after being divorced for 7 years, not on the street.

a reply to: spirit_horse

I think they worked on worst case , some sort of horrific injury , long hospital stay and the mediflight back .

edit to add .travel agent recommended the insurance

a reply to: Indigent

Oh yeah doctors don't give a damn about you. The western ones anyway.

If you are fat you gotta lose weight, the bastards don't want to tell you the truth.

Anyone with type 2 and overweight can ENORMOUSLY help their diabetes by losing weight.

Edit: and keeping it off

a reply to: Indigent

Hey listen pm me

I want to help you.

Pm me your exact details,

How long diabetic
What do you eat drink
What drugs you take both legal and illegal
How much do you weigh
What kind of activity you have
What do u do for living

Ever heard of earthclinic .com

People in the UK moan about the NHS....

I read stories like yours and really do wonder why.

In the UK this would never happen, sure the NHS is far from perfect and we have our problems. But just today I went to see my family doctor and the thought of "how much will this cost me" never even entered my head.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Only if you are from uk, if this would happen to me in uk it would be the same.

People that live in countries with social security think its free, but they don't pay the doctors just because they already paid the social security.

originally posted by: Indigent
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Only if you are from uk, if this would happen to me in uk it would be the same.

People that live in countries with social security think its free, but they don't pay the doctors just because they already paid the social security.

oh yeah i get all that.

I probably pay more tax than you do.

Hell my total deductions now are sickening, they could pay my rent and leave me a lot of change!

but I have never once worried about my health care, i think its a small price to pay for that bit of peace of mind.

I sign a form to get released against the doctor recommendation, tomorrow i have to return to pay.

All in all the doctors and nurses treatment was amazing, I just hope it was worth it when they gouge an eye from my face with the bill

It seems that when people go to the doctor or hospital nowadays most times nothing is done by the doctor except for them sending a big bill to the insurance company. Then why bother going unless you are very sick and on the verge of death?

I'm not studying how medicines interact with the body and natural things that do the same things for nothing. I am doing it so I can find out how not to get sick so I do not need to go see the doctor. This is complicated because it appears there is so much Fad based diet info out there circulating that can actually cause you to get sicker that it makes us more reliable on doctors. After actually reading how blood pressure cuffs work and the science behind it, I see that they are interpreting this information wrongly or doing the testing inappropriately many times. They are also some times misinterpreting cholesterol information and I have found that blood tests do not always show the real story, in fact they can actually show something completely different than what is real.

But is some cases this information from the tests above is relevant. I actually wish I had the equipment to test this stuff, but I don't.

So OP, did they put Salt water or sugar water in your veins in that IV. Sounds sort of like your glucose level was too low so they fed you sugar in those tubes. Maybe you need to reduce your insulin a bit.

a reply to: Indigent

I'll tell you something. This is not to be interpreted as medical advice AT ALL! With that aside, I have some info for you. I don't have a source to back it up, but I know from personal experience. The GMO "insulin" that they sell us these days is not the same as it used to be. I use insulin myself, and have noticed it losing potency after having the bottle open more than 14 days. I believe they are putting insulin degrading enzymes into the product they sell us today. Of course we know that Eli Lilly makes the drugs that are used to "treat" neuropathy, and if the insulin goes bad sooner-then they can sell more!

The best way I have found to control blood sugars is by eating as few carbs as possible. I still notice I have resistance to their GMO "insulin", and as the levels of the bottles go down-I need more and more to keep blood sugars in the normal range.

Whatever they tell people these days is crap about diabetes. A normal blood sugar is 73-83 mg/dl. Anything higher is a "diabetic" blood sugar. It really makes me mad that they make a quarter trillion every year off of JUST diabetes in America these days. They need to cure it, but why cure something so profitable? They've been telling us for 92 years that the "cure" is just 5 years away...

I don't expect anything to change in the near future. Best wishes to you dealing with the cumbersome task of diabetes.

a reply to: Indigent

Not the Docs friend...its the system! Get better, huh?!
MS

I feel you on this OP, and probably would have ranted myself if not for your thread. I whole heartedly agree that it is about money and not health. My synopsis is this: Wife gave birth to our 5th [naturally, un aided and un medicated] in a hospital known for coerced c-csections. The males all gave her gestational diabetes, our little girl did not. My wife also goes from 6-10cm in under an hour and the babies have decended rapidly (we're talking 1-3 min of pushing max) through the birth canal bruising their faces as they have all ranged from 4000 to 4620 grams birth weight.

I expressly told the pediatrician and nurse on duty to start phototherapy as cells in a extravascular capacity are more prone to lysis, releasing haemoglobin and is then turned into bilirubin, and if therapy is not initiated, then jaundice will occur as the load on the liver is increased in this case.

Anyway, they didn't and now want to keep him 2 more days as they just started phototherapy...

I won't even get into how pissed they made me while arguing about blood sugar in a GD mother and baby.

I am certain they (the hospital) is pissed about no c-section and is now trying to milk us for the balance of what that 23K surgery would have netted.

originally posted by: spirit_horse
a reply to: hutch622
$2 million? Damn, I have been shot and broke up in car accidents and 23 major surgeries at our Trauma 1 Hospital and all of it was around $1.25 mil. I guess they are expecting some really bad things for tourists over here. BTW, I was shot in Dec. 2001 and had surgeries until Feb 2003. So, I don't know what they think might happen, but I wouldn't have stayed in a foreign country for a year and a half having surgeries either. I could have traveled home after a couple of months and about 5 surgeries. Your government must think the streets here are like the wild west or something. Oh, I was shot in my bed at 3AM by my ex after being divorced for 7 years, not on the street.

Holy...............cow!!!!!!! Sorry to hear thst!!! I stared down the barrel of a 44 mag.from a pissed off wife which i didn't know she had either....!!

A couple things here; first, with Obama care connecting our healthcare system to the government, it's only gonna get worse. Secondly, the hospital has some legal responsibility. If they let you go when numbers/levels aren't right, well if something happens they could be held accountable (or at least sued by one of the millions of abulance chasing lawyers.
So yeah, I'd be irritated, but I think I kinda/sort of get their thinking.....as long as it isn't me in your shoes!

a reply to: Komodo

It's an interesting world! I have a little insomnia now lol! I still am not sure what woke me up, whether it was the click of the safety or some spiritual thing, but I awoke to her standing next to my bed with a semi-auto 12ga loaded with 00 Mag buck shot in an and 5 shells in it. I hit the barrel and she took off about a 1/3 of my neck and piece of skull. She dropped it and ran, and fortunately I lived in the city then and fire rescue was there about 5 minutes later thanks to a neighbor that heard it go off. I was about 5 minutes from bleeding out. Had she stayed for a second round I would not have been able to do anything. We have a regional Trauma 1 hospital close by and they did some amazing stuff. I had plenty of chest muscle that they did a pec-flap and move it to the neck to replace the missing stuff. The Chief of Maxiofacial Surgery did all the surgery and if not for the scars, you couldn't tell today how bad it really was.

The worst part for me though was the effect on my daughters that were in the house. It was Christmas morning and the police had the entire yard surrounded in crime scene tape, dad was in an unknown condition in Trauma surgery. My oldest died of a drug overdose a few years later. They just had a real difficult time dealing with it all. My youngest is currently living with me and has given me a grandson and granddaughter. But, it has affected her life a lot too. The loss of her sister was just the worse thing that could have happened. Needless to say, I don't sweat the small stuff anymore.