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originally posted by: crazyewok
originally posted by: tothetenthpower
That's all Russell is doing. His rants have certainly woken up a few people to what's going on, but eventually you have to stop complaining and actually start supporting real, effective change, as opposed to fluffy rhetoric.
~Tenth
It was Labour in power when the banks collapsed
originally posted by: SensiblyReckless
a reply to: crazyewok
Correct, Labour started it, but it was the Tories who implemented brutal austerity on the nation's poorest and most vulnerable. Crime is gonna keep going up under austerity. A lot of people are forced into crime because they've been left destitute. While at the same time giving massive tax cuts to huge millionaire corporations.
originally posted by: AshOnMyTomatoes
I'd prefer to agree with this. Worst case scenario, Brand has been a Labour shill all along, and has been using his manic charisma to charm people to following his view. I don't think this is the case. What a strange way to go about luring people to Labour that would be. Best case scenario, Miliband really IS a figure that could and would affect change, however incremental, from within, and Russell is genuinely convinced of this. That's what I'd like to believe. The most likely scenario, however, is that Russell was taken in by Miliband by meeting him face to face. I suspect Russell likes to think he's a good judge of character; he's declared many people to be "decent" after meeting them in person. Miliband then gets into office and does none of the things he proclaimed on the Trews or elsewhere. That's what I think will happen. I guess I'm cynical.
originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: AshOnMyTomatoes
I suspect this thread could get ugly. I happen to like Russell Brand quite a lot, but this is certainly a shift in message. I'm torn on this.
Eventually, revolutionaries who won't use violence as a means of change, will always choose to effect change from within the system they rail against.
That's all Russell is doing. His rants have certainly woken up a few people to what's going on, but eventually you have to stop complaining and actually start supporting real, effective change, as opposed to fluffy rhetoric.
~Tenth
Edit to add: Actually most likely, UKIP will end up in power, because way too many people are frightened closet racists, in which case gods help the UK.
originally posted by: stumason
The Tories had no choice but yto implement austerity and despite what some of you are whining about, they are not "destroying" the country, quite the opposite. The economic recovery is second to none and all the big institutions have said the British plan is working.