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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: 8675309jenny
No but due to such a myriad of patients who were in hospital with her some were younger, some were older, and some were in their prime (29-36)...
Age is just a number anyways, our spines are our spines...
And when you have surgery to correct things that are a danger to the cord itself, no, not buying a week recovery at all.
Nor is my mum who was the first to call BS on the week between.
Que sera sera, we shall see.
originally posted by: pilgrimOmega
originally posted by: 8675309jenny
originally posted by: NavyDoc
I don't see anyone saying anything racist--or is simply criticizing a person of a certain demographic "racist?"
originally posted by: pilgrimOmega
The fact that I didn't say who I thought said something racist, and you decided it was you seems an indicator that you already think you are .
In the wake of so much incredible police violence in America right now, there's still a thread full of people working hard to exonerate the police any way they can in a situation that Mr. Magoo could see stinks to the stratosphere.
I'm the OP and you can take a look through Posse Comitatus to see that police do not automatically get a warm spot in my heart. This thread is not to defend police, it's about determining if there was more to this story. Gray's injury is one that would take considerable force to a healthy spine/neck. If it was indeed another person who inflicted such injury, they should absolutely be held responsible!
You are the one looking racist though. What Navydoc said has nothing to do with feeling as if he was being accused.
I also didn't say that the OP was contributing to the racism. And you got defensive too? I really don't understand WTAF is going on here.
My observation was that there's a lot of language in this thread like thug, multiple offense criminal, abortion, inner cities, etc that most people outside of the USA take as code for racist thought and ideations. Quick, someone say 'urban' for bonus points.
Color shouldn't matter at all, a guy died without due process and people are ok with it. Terrifying.
originally posted by: pilgrimOmega
Not meant as a racist statement. Just wondering why if all black lives matter, they only seem to matter when it's a white cop involved. That's the only time I see violent protests.
It's even worse if you don't mean it.
But it is racist.
Talking about inner cities, abortions. Because white ladies never get abortions, right? They just have "oopsies" and get a day after pill.
Choosing to have an abortion, for whatever reason, is not the same as being executed by the police because you are a "multiple offense criminal". It's not the same as dying a week later from injuries sustained while in police custody, either.
If due process is not applied, then the law was not applied.
Why does this guy's color matter? I mean, if he's a criminal, put him in jail and give him a trial. White or black or red or yellow or blue. But he needs to LIVE to get to the trial, and if the cops cannot ensure that people in their custody can survive then the system needs an overhaul.
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: 8675309jenny
No but due to such a myriad of patients who were in hospital with her some were younger, some were older, and some were in their prime (29-36)...
Age is just a number anyways, our spines are our spines...
And when you have surgery to correct things that are a danger to the cord itself, no, not buying a week recovery at all.
Nor is my mum who was the first to call BS on the week between.
Que sera sera, we shall see.
Although your mum may have had a rough patch, quite often, especially in young males, people will feel so much better after a fusion that they quite often do more than they should have and have to be firmly reminded that they are not healed yet and must follow post-operative instructions to the letter lest they hurt themselves more.
It is indeed possible that this gentleman felt well enough to remove his collar and go about his "usual activities." Criminals are not usually the "rule following" type of person.
originally posted by: UnBreakable
originally posted by: pilgrimOmega
Not meant as a racist statement. Just wondering why if all black lives matter, they only seem to matter when it's a white cop involved. That's the only time I see violent protests.
It's even worse if you don't mean it.
But it is racist.
Talking about inner cities, abortions. Because white ladies never get abortions, right? They just have "oopsies" and get a day after pill.
Choosing to have an abortion, for whatever reason, is not the same as being executed by the police because you are a "multiple offense criminal". It's not the same as dying a week later from injuries sustained while in police custody, either.
If due process is not applied, then the law was not applied.
Why does this guy's color matter? I mean, if he's a criminal, put him in jail and give him a trial. White or black or red or yellow or blue. But he needs to LIVE to get to the trial, and if the cops cannot ensure that people in their custody can survive then the system needs an overhaul.
Um, I'm racist? You don't know me pal. You're making this into black vs white abortion issue, pointing out when white women opt for abortions. My original premise was if ALL black lives matter, as has been a repeated mantra I've been hearing since Ferguson, why aren't there violent protests when black babies are aborted. I was just using abortion as an example. Another example is black on black crime, as is prevalent in Chicago. I never see violent protests there.
originally posted by: 8675309jenny
originally posted by: pilgrimOmega
originally posted by: 8675309jenny
originally posted by: NavyDoc
I don't see anyone saying anything racist--or is simply criticizing a person of a certain demographic "racist?"
originally posted by: pilgrimOmega
The fact that I didn't say who I thought said something racist, and you decided it was you seems an indicator that you already think you are .
In the wake of so much incredible police violence in America right now, there's still a thread full of people working hard to exonerate the police any way they can in a situation that Mr. Magoo could see stinks to the stratosphere.
I'm the OP and you can take a look through Posse Comitatus to see that police do not automatically get a warm spot in my heart. This thread is not to defend police, it's about determining if there was more to this story. Gray's injury is one that would take considerable force to a healthy spine/neck. If it was indeed another person who inflicted such injury, they should absolutely be held responsible!
You are the one looking racist though. What Navydoc said has nothing to do with feeling as if he was being accused.
I also didn't say that the OP was contributing to the racism. And you got defensive too? I really don't understand WTAF is going on here.
My observation was that there's a lot of language in this thread like thug, multiple offense criminal, abortion, inner cities, etc that most people outside of the USA take as code for racist thought and ideations. Quick, someone say 'urban' for bonus points.
Color shouldn't matter at all, a guy died without due process and people are ok with it. Terrifying.
I never thought you accused me of racism. My defense was to your implication that this thread is about defending police. If the police brutally murdered this guy, then break out the NWA tapes!
And you're attaching racism to words that aren't. Yea, it's all about context, but to me a thug is a thug. Thug has no color; I knew plenty of white ones 20yrs ago.
originally posted by: Flavian
a reply to: 8675309jenny
To be honest, i don't see what relevence it has either way. If he died because of Police actions whilst in custody, those responsible have in effect murdered him and should be charged as such.
Previous injuries really don't come into it at all, it is simply a matter of black or white here (in terms of the situation, not race!).
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: pilgrimOmega
originally posted by: 8675309jenny
originally posted by: NavyDoc
I don't see anyone saying anything racist--or is simply criticizing a person of a certain demographic "racist?"
originally posted by: pilgrimOmega
The fact that I didn't say who I thought said something racist, and you decided it was you seems an indicator that you already think you are .
In the wake of so much incredible police violence in America right now, there's still a thread full of people working hard to exonerate the police any way they can in a situation that Mr. Magoo could see stinks to the stratosphere.
I'm the OP and you can take a look through Posse Comitatus to see that police do not automatically get a warm spot in my heart. This thread is not to defend police, it's about determining if there was more to this story. Gray's injury is one that would take considerable force to a healthy spine/neck. If it was indeed another person who inflicted such injury, they should absolutely be held responsible!
You are the one looking racist though. What Navydoc said has nothing to do with feeling as if he was being accused.
I also didn't say that the OP was contributing to the racism. And you got defensive too? I really don't understand WTAF is going on here.
My observation was that there's a lot of language in this thread like thug, multiple offense criminal, abortion, inner cities, etc that most people outside of the USA take as code for racist thought and ideations. Quick, someone say 'urban' for bonus points.
Color shouldn't matter at all, a guy died without due process and people are ok with it. Terrifying.
Huh? So thug, and multiple offence criminal are racist terms now? Should I have said african american, judicially challenged individual to be PC or something? That's ridiculous. He was a thug and he was a multiple offence criminal.
originally posted by: pilgrimOmega
originally posted by: UnBreakable
originally posted by: pilgrimOmega
Not meant as a racist statement. Just wondering why if all black lives matter, they only seem to matter when it's a white cop involved. That's the only time I see violent protests.
It's even worse if you don't mean it.
But it is racist.
Talking about inner cities, abortions. Because white ladies never get abortions, right? They just have "oopsies" and get a day after pill.
Choosing to have an abortion, for whatever reason, is not the same as being executed by the police because you are a "multiple offense criminal". It's not the same as dying a week later from injuries sustained while in police custody, either.
If due process is not applied, then the law was not applied.
Why does this guy's color matter? I mean, if he's a criminal, put him in jail and give him a trial. White or black or red or yellow or blue. But he needs to LIVE to get to the trial, and if the cops cannot ensure that people in their custody can survive then the system needs an overhaul.
Um, I'm racist? You don't know me pal. You're making this into black vs white abortion issue, pointing out when white women opt for abortions. My original premise was if ALL black lives matter, as has been a repeated mantra I've been hearing since Ferguson, why aren't there violent protests when black babies are aborted. I was just using abortion as an example. Another example is black on black crime, as is prevalent in Chicago. I never see violent protests there.
I'm reading your words, and telling you how they look to me. If I am wrong, help me out. This hasn't convinced me otherwise.
originally posted by: Neutrality
a reply to: Vasa Croe
but have you seen the vid that sent freddy into a coma? I don't mean nightmare on elm street either, but until we see it we HAVE to assume the worst. The truth shall set you free, and tapes don't lie, video please? He was alive and walking when shoved in the back of the wagon. When did he get that spinal severance? or maybe it "just happened"
originally posted by: [post=19290643]Vasa Croe
Kind of a far cry from dealing drugs, but hey...maybe someday this will happen. Likely I won't run from police when they find me though....the "crimes" you mentioned are not exactly felonies nor considered dangerous. So far the good ole USA is treating this law abiding citizen just fine....shocking right?
I guess you would label these "white people crimes" since you are so hellbent on "thug" and whatever else being racist?
originally posted by: Neutrality
a reply to: Vasa Croe
but have you seen the vid that sent freddy into a coma? I don't mean nightmare on elm street either, but until we see it we HAVE to assume the worst. The truth shall set you free, and tapes don't lie, video please? He was alive and walking when shoved in the back of the wagon. When did he get that spinal severance? or maybe it "just happened"
originally posted by: pilgrimOmega
originally posted by: [post=19290643]Vasa Croe
Kind of a far cry from dealing drugs, but hey...maybe someday this will happen. Likely I won't run from police when they find me though....the "crimes" you mentioned are not exactly felonies nor considered dangerous. So far the good ole USA is treating this law abiding citizen just fine....shocking right?
I guess you would label these "white people crimes" since you are so hellbent on "thug" and whatever else being racist?
Ohg, I am sure in your mind, that white people don't sell drugs.