Rand Paul and Israel

Found the video disheartening. I believe Israel uses us as it's strong arm in unconstitutional wars and for its own financial gain. It's sad to see Rand Paul following Israel so blindly. What was his fathers stance on Israel? www.youtube.com...

a reply to: Antipathy17

Your "belief in Israel's 'unconstitutional wars' for financial gain" is in my opinion unwarranted.

Where is your proof of financial gain?

Also regarding wars, survival trumps constitutional considerations from what I can see. I see no other purpose than continued survival and prevention of the conditions that lead to earlier wars in any of their actions.

a reply to: Antipathy17

"Defeat the Washington machine"
Hes just another cog.

a reply to: ZeussusZ

Gee, I guess us supporters of Israel are part of that 'machine'?

Perhaps there's a 'need' to target/name someone as an easy explanation for how crazy this planet is....

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: ZeussusZ

Gee, I guess us supporters of Israel are part of that 'machine'?

Perhaps there's a 'need' to target/name someone as an easy explanation for how crazy this planet is....

Amazing. After 100 years of the blatant lie of the forged hoax The Protocols of the Elders of Zion that people still believe the lies in it.

Man, it would be nice to be able to smack people on the head the next time they recycled a lie from it.

More proof that Rand Paul is not a libertarian.

Give the guy a break !! he knows what to do if he wants to become someone important in US .

his dad was not approved by AIPAC , he lost .

How are you supposed to get any TV time without supporting Israel? Are the debates hosted by PBS?

You cannot become president of the US without supporting Israel. The 67' war showed Israel that western media can really make them look bad and President Carter showed Israel that a US president can cause a lot of problems for them.

The objective is simple. No mainstream negative media against Israel and no US president against Israel. Keeping those 2 objectives assures Israel's survival.

originally posted by: haman10
Give the guy a break !! he knows what to do if he wants to become someone important in US .

his dad was not approved by AIPAC , he lost .

Exactly!

originally posted by: MALBOSIA
How are you supposed to get any TV time without supporting Israel? Are the debates hosted by PBS?

You cannot become president of the US without supporting Israel. The 67' war showed Israel that western media can really make them look bad and President Carter showed Israel that a US president can cause a lot of problems for them.

The objective is simple. No mainstream negative media against Israel and no US president against Israel. Keeping those 2 objectives assures Israel's survival.

And you would be happy if Israel didn't survive?

Seems this anti-Israelism is why there is an Israel in the first place, but you can't be happy for them about that either, I suppose.

Nope, let's just get rid of Israel, get rid of Jews...and then what? Are you proud of your genocidal thoughts about Jews? What does that say about you?

a reply to: WarminIndy

At what point did MALBOSIA say anything about 'genociding' or getting rid of the Jews? He simply stated that in order to become the POTUS, you must support Israel. When people twist the truth and make sweeping generalizations like you just did, what does that say about you? Maybe debates and conversations would get somewhere if people stopped jumping to conclusions and looked at the facts.

originally posted by: WarminIndy

originally posted by: MALBOSIA
How are you supposed to get any TV time without supporting Israel? Are the debates hosted by PBS?

You cannot become president of the US without supporting Israel. The 67' war showed Israel that western media can really make them look bad and President Carter showed Israel that a US president can cause a lot of problems for them.

The objective is simple. No mainstream negative media against Israel and no US president against Israel. Keeping those 2 objectives assures Israel's survival.

And you would be happy if Israel didn't survive?

Seems this anti-Israelism is why there is an Israel in the first place, but you can't be happy for them about that either, I suppose.

Nope, let's just get rid of Israel, get rid of Jews...and then what? Are you proud of your genocidal thoughts about Jews? What does that say about you?

YES, I would be very happy if Israel did not survive.

What does this have to do with Jews? Israel claims to be a nation for all religions. Wouldn't I be against Christians and Muslims too?

Try to just talk out of one side of your mouth, it is easier to follow.

a reply to: WarminIndy

I don't recall MALBOSIA saying anything about "Jews". Actually, you are the only one that mentioned "Jews". Everyone else is talking about Israel and how oppressive the Zionist regime is to anyone that disagrees with their ideologies from a book with questionable origins.

a reply to: WarminIndy

Nope, let's just get rid of Israel, get rid of Jews...and then what? Are you proud of your genocidal thoughts about Jews? What does that say about you?

What about the people that live in Israel that aren't Jews? People like the Christians, Muslims and the Zionist who claim to be Jews.

a reply to: nwtrucker

Also regarding wars, survival trumps constitutional considerations from what I can see. I see no other purpose than continued survival and prevention of the conditions that lead to earlier wars in any of their actions.

That only applies to America not a foreign nation. Besides Zionist are too stupid to learn from the past if they were to have learned anything from the past then they wouldn't be running around acting like Nazis. Also anyone that is willing to throw away the Constitution to support a foreign nation should pack their bags and move to that nation because they certainly aren't an American.

It's no surprise that Rand has become an Israeli bootlicker like many in our government because if you don't kiss Israel's ass then you don't get money from AIPAC and Sheldon Adelson. It's funny how he whines about Israeli's getting murdered but says nothing about all the Palestinians that are murdered by Israeli's. What a twisted world we live in people that protect their homes are terrorist and the invaders of their nation are the victims.

a reply to: Antipathy17


Wasn't there supposed to be some sort of bombshell of damning info to be dropped on his opposition? Has that happened yet? He sort of made a big to do about it for a while.

I had originally thought he was going to be different from the typical republicans, but I think that less and less everytime he opens his mouth.

originally posted by: damwel
More proof that Rand Paul is not a libertarian.

...and could in fact achieve the highest office
which his father could not.

Yes, of course being chummy with IS.RA.EL is disturbing
for many, libertarians included... but that is the price
one must pay to be elected, or your wasting your time.

1) Rand Paul wants to win... and believe he can be POTUS
2) Therefore, Rand Paul must appear a friend to IS.RA.EL

Those are the fact of life...

Now look at how Obama played it... saying what IS.RA.EL
want to hear... then win in office... took an independent path.
This is what ever President must do, and Rand Paul knows it.

originally posted by: haman10
Give the guy a break !! he knows what to do if he wants to become someone important in US .

his dad was not approved by AIPAC , he lost .

That is the one string to hold on to. Hopefully its a infiltration strategy , but I doubt they will allow him to get in because of his father regardless.

Once the debates get closer and election mode is full blast , I suspect The GOP will throw Rand down the same hole as his father and mark him crazy and radical.

a reply to: buster2010

Sorting out your posts into a logical pattern takes work!!

The original post referred to Unconstitutional wars. Whose wars? Israel's wars are theirs and have nothing to do with the U.S. Constitution.

If he's referring to U.S. wars, WTF has that got to do with Israel? Nothing.