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originally posted by: Baddogma
a reply to: EA006
No kidding...
But trying to describe the situation creates some obtuse remarks... I still find it amazing this stuff happens.. .heck it's amazing anything happens, but ... see? Obtuse, qualifying remarks and tangents, again.
Maybe a pithy "it's complex" works?
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
Yes and Belial being an Hebrew name for satan, how creative!
originally posted by: VigiliaProcuratio
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
Yes and Belial being an Hebrew name for satan, how creative!
Bel is Hebrew for Lord, while Yael translates to Ibex. Therefore, Belial may literally refer to a horned idol. It's also worth noting that the Yale is a Royal symbol. Makes me think of Molok...
originally posted by: rukia
Honestly, I'd be fine thinking that Dan was just crazy if it hadn't been for seeing that weird stuff. Also, Dan acted fairly sane when he wasn't freaking out, but still acted WAY different than he used to before the ouija board.
originally posted by: damwel
There is so much wrong with this story I am not even going to start except to point out that the demon wasn't a demon but Satan himself Wow. Dan must really rate. Please!
originally posted by: EA006
Yale uni? Any connection? If you take a step back you can see all the intertwined history and symbology.
originally posted by: VigiliaProcuratio
originally posted by: EA006
Yale uni? Any connection? If you take a step back you can see all the intertwined history and symbology.
“Established to train Connecticut ministers in theology and sacred languages”
אורים ותמים - Urim & Thummim - does this mean “Illumination, Divination”?
George Bush (Sr. and Jr.), John Kerry, Bill and Hilary Clinton all went there, as did Samuel Morse. Tony Blair also has links.
Looks like the Latter Day Saints also have links to Yale, which would explain the motto and the fact that Jospeh Smith used “seer stones”.
Not exactly connections to Ba'al or the likes, but it's striking no less.
Can you help us understand what happened to our friend, Dan?
Manifestation
In this stage a person will unintentionally invite the demonic force in. There are said to be many different ways to on how this can happen, most commonly is playing with the Ouija board, performing séances and tarot cards. The demon will be attracted to the weak minded, low self esteem type individual. It is also said that people who are alcoholics, drug addicts and sex addicts are easy targets as well.
Infestation
At this level the demon will start using what may seem like typical intelligent haunting signs. The demon may present itself as the ghost of a loved one or even an angel. The point is to gain trust, so the demonic may influence the person and finally take full control. Some signs of demonic infestation include rapping’s, shadows and shadow like figures that move with no explanation, the sounds of footsteps, weird liquids the seep through the floor or walls.
Oppression
When an individual is under demonic oppression the demon starts to effect the person psychologically, psychically and emotionally. The purpose is to cause the individual to give up the fight or will to live and damn their soul, it said this can be accomplished by suicide.
Possession
When an individual hits this level it is called full possession. The demon or devil now has control over the individual thoughts, emotions and behavior. The evil is frequently in charge if not constantly. If or when the person is in control of their body they usually hear evil voices either threatening them or telling them what do at all times. There are millions of people going through this in silence all the time, i've been through it myself and it's no fun. on the infestation part sometimes the demons don't even present themselves, they just disguise themselves as a person's own thoughts. the demons can just sit in your head and give you thoughts and feelings to manipulate you to do what they want, when a person hits this point they are half possessed. they have some control of their body but occassionally the demon tries to add a little more of their personality into the host body, like parasites.
originally posted by: KingKelson Second, he did (does?) Have a past history of depression. According to him he tried to kill himself three times in the past. The only one he really told me about was the last te where he swam out to the middle of a lake and just planned on floating until he drowned.
When I first met him in high school, he was prone to random outbursts where he would randomly wave his hands violently at someone (sometimes at a random person but usually whoever he was talking to or was in close proximity) and shouting random gibberish and such. It was never serious and he would go right back to normal.
originally posted by: rukia We haven’t really seen him in three years.
He had odd switches in personality, as I said, and the last time that we hung out we had a great time and left on great terms, the next day he wanted nothing more to do with us.
We love Dan. We haven't given up hope that he's still in there, somewhere. And that he can and will hopefully come back somehow. Seeing him happy would make me happy, too.