It's a 'set-up', says father of man charged over alleged Anzac Day terrorism plot

Harun Causevic, 18, appeared in the Melbourne magistrates court on Tuesday charged with conspiring to commit a terrorist act following weekend raids.

Outside court Causevic’s father was asked if he had anything to say about his son.

“That is all a set-up,” he said.

I t's a 'set-up', says father of man charged over alleged Anzac Day terrorism plot

There isnt much info in the article, but this is definitely hinting at a conspiracy, I'm interested to see how it unfolds. The tinfoiler in me thinks the father might be right, what say you ATS?

a reply to: ItVibrates

It probably could be a setup

US and FBI are masters of sending in a guy who gives everyone ideas to bomb

And even provides real looking but fake bomb

And then police shows up

Have there been two of these cases in Oz? I was watching the news, here in the U.K another said something about a 14 year old arrested in a bomb plot. I distinctly remember them mentioning he was too young to be tried as an adult...

a reply to: ItVibrates

a reply to: djz3ro
There were a few raids over the weekend that were part of a "sting operation", I dont have the number of arrests on hand at the moment...

With secret evidence and undisclosed courts recently part of the Australian legal system and terror landscape we may never really know. One thing I do know is that I would not like to be in their position right now.

a reply to: ItVibrates

Notice how all these 'threats' come along at holiday time. The Sydney cafa event happened just few days before we knocked for christmass, now this is happening just near a long weekend.

They do these things to keep the sheeple suitable afraid. Some long time friends of mine, who are old now so that might mean something, told me a few weeks that 'these terrorists can be hiding all over the place, anywhere'

The PTB must laughing their box off at those people.

a reply to: ItVibrates

“That is all a set-up,” he said.

Perhaps he should not have smacked him when he was younger .

a reply to: ItVibrates


This is tragic aye. People can believe what they want. Set up...conspiracy..etc...but I ponder..if the police had not have taken this young man into custody and he was involved in an attack on ANZAC day in Aust then would that be another conspiracy on behalf of whoever, perhaps the government.

Then, had a tragedy occurred and this young man was involved, and the authorities had known about it, and had done nothing because of insubstantial evidence. Is that a conspiracy!! Who would they blame then? I garner they'd blame authorities in every case and I would also hedge 100 to 1 that in whatever outcome whether preventative or actual there will be someone who would call conspiracy and blame the government.

Blame game, everyone except selves. Crikey, surely kids as young as 12 nowadays think like adults. Need a good whoopin I reckon.

Geezz! (Breath slowly)

Bally

a reply to: bally001

Well said Bally, authorities can never win and there is always a conspiracy, False Flag is the latest buzz word, because the French didnt arrest the perps of the Charlie attacks its an Isreali false flag or even a French one, but if they did arrest them and lock them up without telling the public, they are being discriminated against.

BTW I would probably call it a set up if my son were arrested, until the facts came out.

Note to all you fools out there:

The wars you are told about are not what they appear. The whole thing is rigged to perpetuate the money flow system. Any real terror attack on US soil was either a false flag or a patsy or both.

If you are presented with an "opportunity" to bomb something in the name of Mohamad, Jesus Christ or Chris Christy, don't be an idiot. Mm'kay?

a reply to: Forensick

Cheers FS,

Encouraging words.

I'm of a different opinion. If my son was arrested then I' have to ask ...him... how he got there in the first place whether by association or complicancy. Either way, being an adult, he will have to suffer the blame and tell the truth.

Admission in any circumstance is very helpful whether the 1st, 2nd or 3rd person. Unfortunately we see secretive plans and looking after your mates quite mortal nowadays between juveniles. In any instance, should i find my sons or daughters involved with personages of fundamental sorts, I am sorry, but I would report such.

Why, I'd do this to protect innocent persons, like your family and others.

Kind regards and thank for your positive comments,

Bally.

a reply to: bally001

There is no conspiracy . They played a game called jihad and they lost , no virgins , no paradise , just a long time (i hope ) in a place where their Isis inspired false god will be of no help to them . Pack the vaseline son you are going to need it . 18 is an adult here last time i looked , big boys games , big boys jail . As for the no prior record , i am sure Ivan Milat started somewhere . Lock him up and melt the keys . Well done to all that helped to get these arrests . Time to send some messages .

a reply to: hutch622

Cheers Hutchy,

I agree, I think sometimes the sensibilities are lost with regards opinion towards our intell folks in Aust. They are good and professional and sure, mistakes are made at times but... those involved are investigated and anybody responsible and the supervisors are publically called to answer. Very difficult to go being unaccounted for anything in this country from my perspective.

I know some people will find that hard to believe but reallly nothing escapes public scrutiny through our media and in this case I watched the Victorian Commissioner getting some pretty heavy questions put to him on ABC this morning.

The court outcome, inclusive of jury or peers, will determine the evidence.

If the authorities have overstepped the mark, the defendant will walk, with compo and an opportunity to continue their objectives. who's to blame then, the authorities?? or the jury. Dunno meself but it ain't a conspiracy.

If it's jurisprudence whether factual or hearsay I cannot say its conspiring. Can only do the best you can with what tools you have in law on both sides.

I hope I won't be taken wrong in this regard. I know people will make money out of this, media, interviewees, law reps and the judicial indistry (if I can call it that) and I reckon we'll see ACA or its alternative paying for family of the defendants to openly speak out against the investigatiions. I'm sure this will do more harm than good.

Think I've said too much but anyway Hutchy,. beers and cheers,

Bally

a reply to: bally001

Sadly there will be money to be made , 60 minutes etc . But hopefully those that would try to make money will realise that this is against the best interests of Australia as a whole .Surely the media will not try to take a victim angle . I trust our law enforcement whether at a state or federal level . And i trust in their ability to work with law enforcement from overseas . I trust my government to not drop the ball in dealing with terrorism . Sure as you have said mistakes have been made ( lindt ) but i am sure they have learnt a lot from that . Lets not go down the US path ( ATS )of thinking our government is out to get us . Its not happening . Go Crows .

a reply to: hutch622

Cut it out Hutchman!!! Go Sainters.....(slinks away)...damnit!!

a reply to: ItVibrates

Interesting fact: Harun Causevic went to The Al-Furqan Islamic Centre, the same place as Abdul Numan Haider did.

Abdul Numan Haider is the one that attacked two cops last year and got himself shot.

He was set up too, right?

a reply to: Chadwickus

Yeah!

That's what some and other media links would want us to believe.

Bally

“That is all a set-up,” (Causevic’s father) said.

If the father is smart he will keep shouting this message loud and long, to whomever will listen. The system cannot take repeated batterings by the Truth.

How would the father really know if this is a set up or not unless he was involved or taking his sons word at face value? We have heard plenty of parents/friend say something like ______ (insert name here) would never do something like that or I had no idea _____ would do something like that. Not to many parents want to publicly admit their son is a terrorist and a lot of the time are guilty of wishful thinking in similar situations.

It's worrying. On a few levels.

If *Terrorists* were going to hit ANZAC day.. a few kids/teens... not likely.
That's not to say these kids didn't plan to do something, but the scale doesn't add up for a "event"
They wouldn't have gotten very far is what i'm saying, it would have failed rather quickly.

If there was a threat to ANZAC day, then there possibly still is.
An "event" on such an occasion would greatly magnify the proceeding outrage.. city's would burn (kempsy, bankstown, most of Sydney/Melbourne.. it's not hard to see) and no amount of political PC-BS would halt the fury they themselves helped to build.

So i really hope it all just blows over.. like it normally all does...