Kansas Police Seize 11 Y/O Boy After School Presentation

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
It doesn't. That is a myth pushed by the "Just say no" propaganda team. They've known it was a myth all the way back in 2003.

So inhaling smoke is good for you now eh? I mean hey, I am not against a toke every now and then, but let's not go off the deep end here.

You should perhaps update yourself on recent marijuana science. You appear to be woefully ill equipped for this discussion.

I am not interested in your stoner studies. Bob Marley's brain cancer was enough to convince me. Oh I think it's very clear which one of us is in denial here. ~$heopleNation

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I know it's going to probably happen, I just believe it's a mistake. People can get all they want already, giving the government control over it is foolish.

Basically I see it as empowering the government, while dumbing down the herds even more than they already are. Just my take on it. ~$heopleNation

originally posted by: SheopleNation
So inhaling smoke is good for you now eh? I mean hey, I am not against a toke every now and then, but let's not go off the deep end here.

Inhaling smoke? You were responding to a point about marijuana killing brain cells, not inhaling smoke. So I'm not sure why you can claim that what I said above substantiated this point. Also, not everyone smokes marijuana. You can vape it or eat it as well.

I am not interested in your stoner studies. Bob Marley's brain cancer was enough to convince me. Oh I think it's very clear which one of us is in denial here. ~$heopleNation

Stoner studies? The first study was from M.I.T. and the second study came from the University of Louisville. Though the fact that you used the term "stoner studies" really highlights your close minded stance on this issue. You aren't interesting in learning anything new about marijuana, you are just content with believing the lies pushed by the government in the 80's. That's pretty funny coming from someone with the screen name "SheopleNation". Heck you even continue to use the derogatory names for users (stoners) and marijuana (dope) despite the fact that the stoner stereotype has been completely debunked.

originally posted by: SheopleNation
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I know it's going to probably happen, I just believe it's a mistake. People can get all they want already, giving the government control over it is foolish.

Basically I see it as empowering the government, while dumbing down the herds even more than they already are. Just my take on it. ~$heopleNation

Creating corporate marijuana is empowering government? Uh... ok...

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Do you not understand that inhaling smoke effects the brain, as well as the lungs? Never mind.

What does my name have to do with this discussion? Stick to the topic now. I told you that nobody is trying to take your dope away.

Since you brought it up though, why do you feel good about being controlled, do you like being slave minded? ~$heopleNation

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Creating corporate marijuana is empowering government? Uh... ok...

It most certainly is. Playing stupid doesn't change that fact either. I can't walk you through reality though.

You have access to pot now, and the laws need to be lightened up more, but it does not need to be commercialized.

Some of you are so obsessed with getting your weed legal that it comes to a point where you're no longer thinking logically.

I know, You won't be happy until there are ganja pop up ads here on ATS. ~$heopleNation

originally posted by: SheopleNation
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Do you not understand that inhaling smoke effects the brain, as well as the lungs? Never mind.

Do you not understand that I posted irrefutable evidence contradicting your claim that marijuana kills brain cells?

What does my name have to do with this discussion? Stick to the topic now. I told you that nobody is trying to take your dope away.

Maybe because you are acting like a sheeple and believing government propaganda over new research that shows that propaganda to be wrong. Still calling it dope I see. Oh and again, the dope has already been taken away from me. I'm trying to get it back.

Since you brought it up though, why do you feel good about being controlled, do you like being slave minded? ~$heopleNation

Irrelevant.

originally posted by: SheopleNation

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Creating corporate marijuana is empowering government? Uh... ok...

It most certainly is. Playing stupid doesn't change that fact either. I can't walk you through reality though.

Regulations on marijuana will exist regardless whether marijuana businesses are allowed to incorporate or not. Your point is silly. In fact, with incorporation, it strengthens the marijuana lobby which goes to take power AWAY from government by sinking money into politicians and bills that loosen federal regulations.

You have access to pot now, and the laws need to be lightened up more, but it does not need to be commercialized.

Do you realize that marijuana is the answer our economy has been waiting for to reinvigorate our manufacturing base? The uses for industrial hemp alone are just outstanding, but you don't want that. Only private growing allowed. Foolish...

Some of you are so obsessed with getting your weed legal that it comes to a point where you're no longer thinking logically.

You haven't given me a logical point yet. Bunch of misconceptions and propaganda though.

I know, You won't be happy until there are ganja pop up ads here on ATS. ~$heopleNation

Are there alcohol or cigarette pop up adds here on ATS? I wouldn't know. I don't see those pop up adds.

I drove through Colorado and Kansas last summer. It is a very known fact that KS police profile many of of the cars coming from CO, and KS is simply one of the more strict states as it pertains to marijuana laws.

After looking at the condition of the roads, infrastructure and amount of jobs in Kansas City compared to Denver, I'd say legalizing would likely help some of those problems.

I respect the mom for finding a treatment that works for her condition, but that kid of hers was not too bright in making that presentation.

originally posted by: SheopleNation
I am not interested in your stoner studies. Bob Marley's brain cancer was enough to convince me. Oh I think it's very clear which one of us is in denial here. ~$heopleNation

LMAO! Thank you so much for demonstrating the type of reason you apply in reaching conclusions...and to think you're here talking down about pot lowering IQ...LOL!

So, a guy who smoked weed got brain cancer huh? Wow, compelling stuff...I know this guy who used to eat a lot of PB&J, he died of heart disease...that's all I needed to know PB&J was no good...cuz logic...

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

I am not interested in your stoner studies. Bob Marley's brain cancer was enough to convince me. Oh I think it's very clear which one of us is in denial here. ~$heopleNation

Stoner studies? The first study was from M.I.T. and the second study came from the University of Louisville. Though the fact that you used the term "stoner studies" really highlights your close minded stance on this issue. You aren't interesting in learning anything new about marijuana, you are just content with believing the lies pushed by the government in the 80's. That's pretty funny coming from someone with the screen name "SheopleNation". Heck you even continue to use the derogatory names for users (stoners) and marijuana (dope) despite the fact that the stoner stereotype has been completely debunked.

Look here buddy, we don't need your stoner MIT studies...we all know universities are for idiot stoners...people without their IQ lowered by pot realize we don't need 'studies' or 'logic' to prove points...after all, a guy who used to smoke lot DID die of brain cancer...cuz if someone does an activity, and then dies of a disease, then that activity is clearly the cause of the disease...that's just how non-stoner science/logic works, buddy!

a reply to: TheJourney

Ha!

Yea, can't be listening to that compelling evidence. After all the government told us in the 80's that marijuana kills brain cells, so it MUST be true. Never mind that the government is notorious for not listening to scientific consensus or anything.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Basically just more illogical blabbering, and anything to deflect the fact that inhaling smoke is bad for your brain and certainly your lungs.

With your way of thinkng, Alcohol must be good for your liver. But back to my original point prior to you coming unhinged, pot is destructive to young people. ~$heopleNation

originally posted by: TheJourney
LMAO! Thank you so much for demonstrating the type of reason you apply in reaching conclusions...and to think you're here talking down about pot lowering IQ...LOL!

We'll have a good laugh guy, cause I am laughing back at you. How is your journey to nowhere working out for you so far?

So, a guy who smoked weed got brain cancer huh?

Yeah, a guy who smoked it every single day. It being bad for you is not the point though, people do things that are bad for them all the time. My concern is its effect on kids. ~$heopleNation

originally posted by: SheopleNation

originally posted by: TheJourney
LMAO! Thank you so much for demonstrating the type of reason you apply in reaching conclusions...and to think you're here talking down about pot lowering IQ...LOL!

We'll have a good laugh guy, cause I am laughing back at you. How is your journey to nowhere working out for you so far?

So, a guy who smoked weed got brain cancer huh?

Yeah, a guy who smoked it every single day. It being bad for you is not the point though, people do things that are bad for them all the time. My concern is its effect on kids. ~$heopleNation

You've just provided all the anecdotal evidence I need that anti-pot people have no logical capabilities, or ability to determine what constitutes as evidence...someone who used to smoke weed dying of brain cancer is 'all the evidence you need' to know pot is bad...when pointed out, you respond with 'how's your journey to nowhere.' What wonderful skills of evasion. I'm learning about what anti-pot people are like, and I gotta say...it looks like it drops your IQ...you're all the evidence I need...

'Mg concern is the kids.' Haha. More substanceless nonsense. Being anti-pot seems to cause you to draw inane conclusions and to repeat nonsense you have heard despite having no logic for making the connections you do...we need to keep this anti-pot stuff at bay...I'm really concerned the kids are gonna pick up these sloppy mental habits.

originally posted by: SheopleNation
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Basically just more illogical blabbering, and anything to deflect the fact that inhaling smoke is bad for your brain and certainly your lungs.

Illogical blabbering? Way to dismiss everything I said not to mention move the goal posts back. You originally said that smoking kills brain cells. I proved that wrong, now you are painting some weird correlation between smoking and brain damage without ANY scientific study behind it. Besides, I've already pointed out that smoking isn't the only way to imbibe marijuana.

Speaking of science by the way:
There's Very Good News for the Lungs of Marijuana Smokers

The news: Conventional wisdom generally says inhaling any kind of smoke is bad for your lungs, and, to that end, smoking marijuana is just as bad for your health as smoking tobacco cigarettes.

However, according to data recently published in the journal Annals of the American Thoracic Society, inhaling one marijuana cigarette a day over 20 years is not associated with adverse changes in lung health.

In the largest cross-sectional analysis study of its kind, researchers at Emory University in Atlanta found that cannabis exposure and inhalation were not associated with negative spirometry changes, just FEV1 (forced expiratory volume) declines or problems with small airways disease. Additionally, the researchers found that vaporizing marijuana users reported even fewer issues than those who inhaled combusted marijuana.

With your way of thinkng, Alcohol must be good for your liver. But back to my original point prior to you coming unhinged, pot is destructive to young people. ~$heopleNation

So what? It's already been established that kids won't be allowed to buy marijuana once legalized and that it will be easier to keep out of their hands since legal businesses are accountable to the law. Also, why would I say that alcohol is good for my liver? There is study after study proving this. YOU on the other hand just keep dredging up 1980's anti-pot propaganda as your evidence then casually dismiss all the scientific evidence I present that says it is wrong.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: SheopleNation
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Basically just more illogical blabbering, and anything to deflect the fact that inhaling smoke is bad for your brain and certainly your lungs.

Illogical blabbering? Way to dismiss everything I said not to mention move the goal posts back. You originally said that smoking kills brain cells. I proved that wrong, now you are painting some weird correlation between smoking and brain damage without ANY scientific study behind it. Besides, I've already pointed out that smoking isn't the only way to imbibe marijuana.

Speaking of science by the way:
There's Very Good News for the Lungs of Marijuana Smokers

The news: Conventional wisdom generally says inhaling any kind of smoke is bad for your lungs, and, to that end, smoking marijuana is just as bad for your health as smoking tobacco cigarettes.

However, according to data recently published in the journal Annals of the American Thoracic Society, inhaling one marijuana cigarette a day over 20 years is not associated with adverse changes in lung health.

In the largest cross-sectional analysis study of its kind, researchers at Emory University in Atlanta found that cannabis exposure and inhalation were not associated with negative spirometry changes, just FEV1 (forced expiratory volume) declines or problems with small airways disease. Additionally, the researchers found that vaporizing marijuana users reported even fewer issues than those who inhaled combusted marijuana.

With your way of thinkng, Alcohol must be good for your liver. But back to my original point prior to you coming unhinged, pot is destructive to young people. ~$heopleNation

So what? It's already been established that kids won't be allowed to buy marijuana once legalized and that it will be easier to keep out of their hands since legal businesses are accountable to the law. Also, why would I say that alcohol is good for my liver? There is study after study proving this. YOU on the other hand just keep dredging up 1980's anti-pot propaganda as your evidence then casually dismiss all the scientific evidence I present that says it is wrong.

Enough with all these university studies! I watched reefer madness, so I get what pot's all about...these 'universities' probably haven't even watched it! Shows what they know! 'Studies.' HA!

originally posted by: TheJourney
Mg concern is the kids.' Haha. More substanceless nonsense. Being anti-pot seems to cause you to draw inane conclusions and to repeat nonsense you have heard despite having no logic for making the connections you do...we need to keep this anti-pot stuff at bay...I'm really concerned the kids are gonna pick up these sloppy mental habits.

It's not anti-pot saying that it is bad for your health, or bad for young developing brains. You don't seem to be able to comprehend that, so continue on with your nonsense. Are you smoking now by chance? ~$heopleNation

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

Illogical blabbering? Way to dismiss everything I said not to mention move the goal posts back. You originally said that smoking kills brain cells. I proved that wrong, now you are painting some weird correlation between smoking and brain damage without ANY scientific study behind it. Besides, I've already pointed out that smoking isn't the only way to imbibe marijuana.

Krazysh0t, Do you choke when you inhale marijuana? Well if you do, that is because your body is warning you that smoke is not good for you. Certainly you can at least agree that inhaling carcinogens is bad for your lungs?

So what? It's already been established that kids won't be allowed to buy marijuana once legalized and that it will be easier to keep out of their hands since legal businesses are accountable to the law. Also, why would I say that alcohol is good for my liver? There is study after study proving this. YOU on the other hand just keep dredging up 1980's anti-pot propaganda as your evidence then casually dismiss all the scientific evidence I present that says it is wrong.

Again, I am not anti-pot. You don't seem to be able to comprehend that now do you? Oh and you never asked me about the cultivation of Hemp, so don't make reckless assumptions. I am 100% in support of Hemp being grown for industrial purposes and it's oils ect. ~$heopleNation

originally posted by: SheopleNation
Krazysh0t, Do you choke when you inhale marijuana? Well if you do, that is because your body is warning you that smoke is not good for you. Certainly you can at least agree that inhaling carcinogens is bad for your lungs?

No more so than lightly burning your skin with a lighter. The pain and injury is gone within seconds. You are making reaching claims now. It has been shown that smoking marijuana really isn't as bad as you think it is for your lungs, yet you refuse to acknowledge this point. And you continue to refuse to admit that it doesn't kill brain cells.

Again, I am not anti-pot. You don't seem to be able to comprehend that now do you? Oh and you never asked me about the cultivation of Hemp, so don't make reckless assumptions. I am 100% in support of Hemp being grown for industrial purposes and it's oils ect. ~$heopleNation

I really don't care what your stance on marijuana is. You keep pushing anti-pot propaganda like it is still factual material. I care about people pushing lies as truth. That is why I keep posting studies debunking you.