Russian opposition parties form anti-Putin alliance

originally posted by: MensaIT3
a reply to: dragonridr

Sorry OP

This thread is BS, more accurately BBC BS

Those 2 parties are like two small bugs getting together

No real power no real support from people

But of course guys like you and Tadaman and Rocker wouldn't know that because your info comes from western MSM

I'd say that's not true many people are afraid to show there true feelings. Fear and intimidation makes people pretend to go along wtf things. When people start seeing others stand up to oppression they tend to get more confident to express their views.

Even an explosion starts with a small spark. To dismiss these people just because you say they are insignificant means nothing. The US revolution started with a couple of guys who got mad and exploded into a war.Nationalism creates false suport what I mean Is do you think all Germans support what the Nazis did to the jews. They didn't but if you looked at Germany at the time you couldn't tell. Whenever nationalism is involved in a country and you make it a crime not to be you tend to have alot of people who claim to be.

a reply to: dragonridr

Face facts, the west's policies and actions moving ever closer to Russia and making everyone afraid of them with the massive Propaganda and fear machine in almost every country in the region has caused this to grow at a massive rate.

Who can blame the Russians for feeling this way???

Why not try more sanctions, and pretend that Ukraine is all Russia's fault ??

originally posted by: ParasuvO
a reply to: dragonridr

Face facts, the west's policies and actions moving ever closer to Russia and making everyone afraid of them with the massive Propaganda and fear machine in almost every country in the region has caused this to grow at a massive rate.

Who can blame the Russians for feeling this way???

Why not try more sanctions, and pretend that Ukraine is all Russia's fault ??

So In your world you can excuse bad behavior with other people made me do it?? This 8 a lesson 5 yr olds learn you can't place your actions on others. when you invade a country there's no we made them so It. This is simple they wanted Crimea with the turmoil created Putin saw an opportunity and moved in. Now if you made the argument that like vultures he couldn't help himself I might have bought that one.

all 53 heads companies blueblood or halfblood , not one redblood boss So, it turns out to Russia fascist
organization is divided into mild,
radical and illegal, and listed
their 53 pieces!
Moderate - 23 companies:
1. The Russian People's Union - ROS
2. National Democratic Party
- PDP
3. New Force
4. EO Russian
5. Great Russia - BP
6. National Democratic Alliance -
NDA
7. People's Cathedral - NA
8. Russian Imperial Motion - RIM
9. NDS (National Union of Russia)
10. Cathedral of the Russian people - NRC
11. Russian social movement -
ROD
12. National Russian
liberation movement - NROD
13. Protection of the Russian Party
Constitution "Rus" - MANPADS "Rus"
14. National Patriots of Russia - CPD
15. National Democratic Movement
"Russian Civil Union" - NDM CSG
16. Freedom Nation - NA
17. The Russian national-patriotic
motion
18. Resistance
19. National Socialist
Initiative - NSI
20. Congress of Russian Communities
21. The restructuring is
22. ML "DAWN" (Public
Movement "Dawn")
23. The National Organization of Russian
Muslims
Radical - 22 companies
1. Militia behalf of Minin and
Pozharsky - NOMP
2. Other Russia
3. Russian Liberation Front
"Memory" - RIF "Memory"
4. OOPD "Russian national
unity "-" Guard Barkashov "
5. FFCD "Russian national
unity "- FFCD RNE
6. Movement "Alexander Barkashov"
7. National Sovereignty Party of Russia
- NSPR
8. People's National Party - PNP
9. True Russian national
unity - IRNE
10. The Baltic Russian Avant-garde
Resistance - BARS
11. Russian united national
Alliance (RONA)
12. Guard Christ
13. National Union - NA
14. The Union of Orthodox horugvenostsev-
SPH
15. Union of Russian People - NRC
16. Northern Brotherhood - Security
17. Black Hundred
18. Movement Parabellum
19. National Socialist Party
Russia - NMTPFs
20. Freedom Party - PS
21. Russian image
22. National syndicalist
offensive - NSN
Prohibited - 8 companies
1. Movement Against Illegal
Immigration - Movement Against Illegal Immigration
2. National-Socialist Society
- NSO
3. National Bolshevik Party -
NBP
4. Slavic Union - SS
5. National Revolutionary Front
action (FNRD)
6. The Russian National Union -
RANU
7. The League of defense of Moscow
8. Format 18 I will say more anti-fascist organizations also all under control of blueblood their goal the global destruction redblood

a reply to: mangust69

I've been thinking about similarities lately in history. After world War one Germans Nazis started as a reaction to a military defeat, the collapse of empire and the sudden loss of Germany’s significance in the world. We see the same things now in Russia there military power fell apart and economically was once important much like germany but lost there economic power. This lead to a rise of Nationalism in Germany and we are seeing it again in Russia.

The similarities are startling started with German brown shirts beating people on the streets and grew into the Nazi party. In Russia we are seeing the same thugs beating people in the streets and intimidating immagrants and gays. Which makes me wonder if Putin realizes he's dancing with the devil and eventually you have to pay the devil his due.

Right now everything in Russia is blamed on others much like Germany did before world war 2. Read a book that discussed how fascism gets a start in countries besides the strong sense of nationality they also show something called Projective identification. Projective identification is an unconscious phantasy in which aspects of the self or an internal object are split off and attributed to an external object. Basically what you see some doing here on defense of Putin he did this because NATO or US did this.

There is the key to the reason Russians are willing to risk their lives fighting Putin. They see it like in the article where it mentioned finishing the report on Russia's involvement in Ukraine. The anti Putin groups feel if they inform the people what's really going on they can stop it. I'm not so confident fascism is hard to battle when economic times are tough and political power is gone.The West may continue to play into this trap of there Putin assigned roles only ro make things worse

In one respect I have to ask myself is destruction of the Russian economy the best play here ??

Partie's slogan..... " Just say no to Polonium 210"!!!!!!!!

a reply to: dragonridr

In one respect I have to ask myself is destruction of the Russian economy the best play here ??

Probably not, but when you look at the alternatives what choice is there?

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: dragonridr

In one respect I have to ask myself is destruction of the Russian economy the best play here ??

Probably not, but when you look at the alternatives what choice is there?

well i thought they just should have set up an international coalition of peace keepers. But no one wanted to commit the ground troops. Sanctions is making the anti western factions in Russia gain power. They can go see we told you they were out to get us ignoring of course why the sanctions were placed.

Well I was wondering why the opisiton in Russia was starting to be more vocal. Well it looks like Putin is starting to lose his grip with the people. Now workers are starting to protest because of the downturn in the economy. His popularity in a large part was the image he was making the economy better.

Teachers are striking apparently tired of working for free. And nationalism isn't a reason to continue anymore companies aren't laying off workers they just aren't paying them. This explains why we don't see the unemployment true figures local governors hide it. With this I see anti putin parties starting to gain major support against Putin. See Putin is expected to fix this and can't meaning he is going to get the blame.

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