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Scientists using the Atacama Large Millimeter/submillimeter Array have found a complex carbon-based molecule in a protoplanetary disc around a young star – in quantities enough to fill all of Earth’s oceans – hinting that prebiotic chemistry is indeed universal and not limited to our Solar System.
Methyl cyanide (CH3CN), along with hydrogen cyanide (HCN) were both detected in the cold, outer regions of the nascent disc surrounding MWC 480, a million year old protostar at the heart of the system. These species are of particular interest as molecules such as cyanides contain carbon-nitrogen bonds, pathways that assist in the production of amino acids – the structural elements from which proteins are built.
“From the study of exoplanets, we know the Solar System isn’t unique in its number of planets or abundance of water,” says lead author of the new paper, Karin Öberg, an astronomer with the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA. “We now have evidence that this same chemistry exists elsewhere in the Universe, in regions that could form solar systems not unlike our own.”
The molecules found around MWC 480 were detected in a zone analogous to our own Kuiper Belt, the home of comets and ice-laden objects orbiting beyond Neptune and intriguingly, these type of molecules are also found in similar concentrations in our own solar system’s comets. It is thought that comets are the remnants left over from the formation of the Solar System, frozen records of the conditions in this early epoch. As the planets evolved, it is possible that comets (and asteroids) from these outer regions brought water to Earth, along with organic molecules. If this is the case, then these molecules could have helped life to get established on Earth.
But what are the chances of these molecules surviving the turbulent conditions of this infant disc, as it matures to an established exo-system? As such a large abundance of these molecules were found, more than would be found in interstellar clouds, researchers hypothesise that these species are being produced very efficiently in the protoplanetary disc and on a relatively fast timescale. This rapid formation is crucial in ensuring their survival. It is likely therefore, that these molecules could be sequestered into objects for later dispersal around the evolving exo-system, possible seeding life elsewhere in the Universe in a similar process suggested to have occurred in our own Solar System.
originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: JadeStar
Maybe someday we will find some proto DNA in our solar system, I always liked Crick's panspermia idea.
Especially if it had the opposite chirality (or handedness) as that of the DNA of all life on Earth.
That would be almost as amazing as finding life itself.
originally posted by: JadeStar
originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: JadeStar
Maybe someday we will find some proto DNA in our solar system, I always liked Crick's panspermia idea.
Finding proto DNA in our solar system would pretty amazing. Especially if it had the opposite chirality (or handedness) as that of the DNA of all life on Earth.
That would be almost as amazing as finding life itself.
originally posted by: BGTM90
a reply to: JadeStar
What would be the implications of finding an enantiomer of DNA or the amino acids it is composed of compared to finding the molecule itself?
originally posted by: greencmp
originally posted by: JadeStar
originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: JadeStar
Maybe someday we will find some proto DNA in our solar system, I always liked Crick's panspermia idea.
Finding proto DNA in our solar system would pretty amazing. Especially if it had the opposite chirality (or handedness) as that of the DNA of all life on Earth.
That would be almost as amazing as finding life itself.
Yes though, that would sort of defy the premise of Crick's postulate which relied upon uniformity as confirmation that it all came from the same source.
Back to square one!
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: JadeStar
Especially if it had the opposite chirality (or handedness) as that of the DNA of all life on Earth.
That would be almost as amazing as finding life itself.
It would be the smoking gun, the very evidence all these brilliant scientists have been searching for. Indisputable evidence that life is abundant in our universe. I dream of the day.
Anyway, keep up the good work mate, I get excited when I see a new thread of yours. Always very fascinating.
originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: JadeStar
If you take this information, combined with your other referenced and quite excellent thread and add in the data from this paper- www.nature.com...
and include some other information associated with your source material such as some found here- www.space.com...
There can be some really interesting analogues derived from a compare and contrast of our own solar system and that of MWC 480. For example, In MWC 480, these organics are found at a distance that is the equivalent of 30-100 AU which would be the equivalent of our Kuiper Belt. These same organic molecules are found in comets in our system, comets are thought, but please correct me of I'm wrong because as an Anthropologist I'm a touch outside my comfort zone here but appreciate the implications this has on my own field, but comets are thought to be formed in the Kuiper Belt.
Essentially, my point is that the analogue with our own system is that these molecules are found at the same distances in MWC 480 associated with the formation of comets in our system, it's a fact that comets bombarded the planets in the early history of our system, comets today have the same organic molecules as seen in the formation of this new system, ergo if comets in our system bombarded the planets(and moons) with these molecules and new research has demonstrated that molecular fragments can self replicate and grow into repeating chemical chains long enough to act as a basis for primitive life in addition to your other thread showing the work done at Ames research center that demonstrates that they have generated three key components of RNA and DNA in the lab makes concepts like panspermia far more likely in the long run.
One question I have been pondering though and perhaps you can point me in the right direction is... is there a difference in the type and frequency of elements and compounds created in a 1st generation star system compared to a 3rd or 4th gen system like the one we currently inhabit?
Because I think it would stand to reason that the elements and compounds existing within these proto planetary discs would affect what or if, organic molecules are able to form. Or am I over thinking this?
What about contamination from the present?
originally posted by: JadeStar
The reason is because it would spark a whole huge debate over whether there was a separate "genesis" on Mars, etc, with life forming there independently or whether it was the result of solar system wide contamination from meteors striking the Earth in the past.
Mars may be contaminated by microbes from Earth after strict procedures were breached before the Curiosity probe launched, a key Nasa official has revealed.