Russian Fighter Jet Nearly Collides with U.S Spy Jet Over Europe

originally posted by: Zaphod58
Twenty feet is a lot closer than necessary. There is no reason to be that close.

Of course there is...you can't get good the details from the centre fold unless you are 20 feet or closer.
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a reply to: Zaphod58

since the EP-3 Intel coup has there been more measures taken to destroy sensitive information and equipment quickly before the aircraft is captured?

They were pouring coffee into hard drives and smashing things with an axe if I remember correctly. Tell me they have something a little better now and have learned their lesson. Right?

maybe some explosive charges that wont go off if they are shot at? Something?

a reply to: tadaman

Yeah, they've improved things based on the lessons learned from that.

Russians are crazy bastards (just watch some youtube videos of their trucks crossing rivers )...and yes I think vodka has something to do with it. But can we really blame them for telling us to get the hell outa there. I understand it was international airspace...but if we have the technology to gather info on them from there and pass it along...then I don't blame them for being pissed. As we all know "All is fair in love and war".

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Zaphod58

since the EP-3 Intel coup has there been more measures taken to destroy sensitive information and equipment quickly before the aircraft is captured?

They were pouring coffee into hard drives and smashing things with an axe if I remember correctly. Tell me they have something a little better now and have learned their lesson. Right?

maybe some explosive charges that wont go off if they are shot at? Something?

They put a sign saying "Nothing To See Here" and a pile of porn mags next to it, as distraction.

a reply to: tadaman

a reply to: Zaphod58

This is something I find interesting. I wonder what those "tactics" are. And how quickly hight tech equipment can be rendered useless for both data and back engineering.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: 727Sky

Twenty feet is a lot closer than necessary. There is no reason to be that close.

Yep unless you are feeling frisky. Closer than necessary true. But he could have gotten allot closer to the big slow bird and never thought twice about it.

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originally posted by: meanass
American people are trying to commit suicide immigration took the American dream pissed on it I'm white colonial American my life sucks here new American people meet Russia

A lot of people still think the American Dream is alive, I can't help but always chuckle inside and think, my god man, there are better places in the world to be at this point in time. None are perfect but, better.

That is the result of American propaganda, old TV shows and so forth.

The incident happened over the Baltic sea. I guess the Russians are just mad over the fact, that their planes are being intercepted almost daily over there too by the NATO Baltic air-policing fighter jets. So probably that's their response. A typical Russian response.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: MystikMushroom

It works though. The next RC flight after a Russian fighter flew within 50 feet of the aircraft during the intercept ran through Swiss airspace without permission as soon as they detected the launch of a fighter to intercept them.

I don't understand the geography of that one. Switzerland is pretty far from Russia. And in such a heavily populated and trafficked area as Europe, how would they know that Russia launched something to intercept them, and how would Russia do it? Fly right over Poland and Germany?

Were you thinking about Sweden?

a reply to: mbkennel

Yeah, it's been awhile since it happened and I was tired as hell when I wrote that. Thanks for the correction.

a reply to: tadaman

since the EP-3 Intel coup has there been more measures taken to destroy sensitive information and equipment quickly before the aircraft is captured?

Even if you destroy hard disk/software, procedures and mission orders, there is nothing like a good look at the architecture of those electronics systems. It give you a good idea of the performance capabilities and sometimes good inspiration to upgrade your own systems.

a reply to: howmuch4another

I take it that this is not the first time that this has occurred.
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a reply to: kathael

Far from it. Just usually not this close.

During the early years of the Cold War, the West had something like 20-30 aircraft shot up, or shot down, including an RC-130 with 14 mission specialists on board IIRC.

a reply to: 727Sky

20 feet is certainly to close... The only time we are allowed that close is combat or in flight refueling...

Which by the way you have to get officially released by atc to do because it's considered a mid air collision by their radar.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: howmuch4another

There were a couple of similar incidents with RC-135s last year. One where the Russian fighter passed close overhead, and one where the RC ducked into Swiss airspace to get away from approaching fighters.

Twenty feet is way too close, especially with a large aircraft like an RC.

Swedish airspace, not Swiss.

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a reply to: tommyjo

Yeah someone else caught that. That's what I get for typing tired and not double checking like I usually do.

The Russians have been doing this for a long time! My unit had similar events in the late 1970s in the same area.

They love to get your attention by passing below you and pulling up right in front of you. Another little trick was to pass you at high speed while going into after burner...very loud!

Same old song and dance...