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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: xuenchen
The reason why I bring this up is that for the past 6 years, we've had almost an adoration-complex with whatever came out of DC.
Morality, right, wrong, didn't matter. Because it came from a DC that people worshipped.
But now there appears to be a tidal change. It's not so much about what is being said, but who is saying it.
originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: buster2010
Cute. So you're fed up with war at the same time as the GOP get the house and senate.
What a coincidence.
originally posted by: michaelbrux
a number of politicians, mostly republican it seems, have decided to take impossible, unrealistic positions with regards to foreign affairs. they want to believe in a world that has been dead for some time.
eventually, most will learn to ignore their obnoxious opinions that will never happen.
originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Southern Guardian
Under what circumstances then would you ever envision attacking Iran militarily?
Ever?
Never?
Because there comes a time when attacking them would be a bad thing, especially if they had developed a nuclear weapon.
originally posted by: Aazadan
That time could come, but all indications right now are that they aren't building a weapon and part of the deal involves inspections to be sure they aren't building a weapon.
When would we be justified in attacking Iran? When we can get them to violate an agreement that even Russia and China won't back them on. As things currently stand, Russia and China protect Iran since they all have the same goal of toppling the west. That's one of the major factors in these talks is that Russia/China have had to sign on to consequences if Iran violates their end of the deal.
If you want to remove Iran you must first sideline the major powers.
originally posted by: olaru12
imo war and it's aftermath is unavoidable. The neocons, inbed with the corporate military industrial complex have decided
that Israel needs to protect itself with a preemptive nuclear strike against Iran. This will be the catalyst that kicks off
Armageddon that the Right Wing Christians have been predicting and hoping for all along.
Political solutions are impossible as the electorate is so divided and impotent anyway.
Apocalypse Now!
I'm so glad I don't have any kids because this will be their war; just like we had Nam, the war on terror, and now this BS.
America will gradually slip into a fascist state with all the goodies that Fascism brings, like militarized cops, detention camps, strictly regulated travel, state sponsored media, and social upheaval; are you blind the signs are all around us?
Any optimists out there to counter my predictions?
Anyone think the GOP will save us and lead us into a conservative utopia?
originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: Patriotsrevenge
Without a concrete confirmation I still say NO .
We are being militarily gutted by a progressive anyway if we actually strated a larger fight that would take a draft.
originally posted by: bullcat
originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: Patriotsrevenge
Without a concrete confirmation I still say NO .
We are being militarily gutted by a progressive anyway if we actually strated a larger fight that would take a draft.
If that is what it takes to wake the people up, then let them draft
Be a patriot! Wave the flag of freedom! (in our faces as usual). Put your money where your mouth is!
Defend your country .. abroad by ravaging others!
Stand proud!
Pre-emptively prevent attacks! by attacking others first!
I've actually met and lived with people from Iran, compared to Americans, I know which I would rather live with.
originally posted by: olaru12
imo war and it's aftermath is unavoidable. The neocons, inbed with the corporate military industrial complex have decided
that Israel needs to protect itself with a preemptive nuclear strike against Iran. This will be the catalyst that kicks off
Armageddon that the Right Wing Christians and Zionists have been predicting and hoping for all along. They're tired of waiting so
they have decided to play GOD and advance their agenda thru a manufactured war.
Political solutions are impossible as the electorate is so divided and impotent anyway.
Apocalypse Now!
I'm so glad I don't have any kids because this will be their war; just like we had Nam, the war on terror, and now this BS. btw, the draft will be reinstated!!!
America will gradually slip into a fascist state with all the goodies that Fascism brings, like militarized cops, detention camps, strictly regulated travel, state sponsored media, total surveillance, and social upheaval; are you blind, the signs are all around us?
Any optimists out there to counter my predictions?
Anyone think the GOP will save us and lead us into a conservative utopia?