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originally posted by: crazyewok
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
I say if you vote in the ones who destroy our nation...
You have no right to complain!!!
Just remember they come from BOTH party's.
People like Toney Blair and Gorden Brown has done just as much to destroy the country a Camron and George Osborne.
If you going to vote Labor make sure he wasnt in the pre 2010 or at least pre 2005 batch of scum.
Actually, a lot has changed. Unemployment is down,the deficit is going down, there will be a surplus in 17/18 etc..
originally posted by: Soloprotocol
originally posted by: crazyewok
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
I say if you vote in the ones who destroy our nation...
You have no right to complain!!!
Just remember they come from BOTH party's.
People like Toney Blair and Gorden Brown has done just as much to destroy the country a Camron and George Osborne.
If you going to vote Labor make sure he wasnt in the pre 2010 or at least pre 2005 batch of scum.
Sorry, and i hate when someone does this to me, but i have to put my foot down on this one..I constable Butterbean hereby charge you with at least 3 counts of really bad spelling.. how do you plead.?
We estimate that public sector net borrowing has fallen to £90.2 billion or 5.0 per cent of
GDP this year – down 41 per cent in cash terms and 51 per cent as a share of GDP relative
to the post-crisis peak in 2009-10. Looking further ahead, on the basis of the medium-term
spending policy assumption provided to us by the Government, we expect borrowing to fall
in each year and to reach a small surplus in 2018-19. The Government no longer assumes
that it will cut public spending as a share of GDP in 2019-20, reducing the projected
surplus in that year to £7.0 billion from £23.1 billion in our December forecast.
The Coalition Government’s policy decisions in this Budget are not expected to have a
material impact on the economy. For the public finances, they ensure that net borrowing is
lower every year to 2018-19 than in our last forecast, that the new fiscal mandate is met
with room to spare in 2017-18,[ that public spending as a share of GDP no longer falls to a
post-war low in 2019-20, and that the debt-to-GDP ratio falls a year earlier in 2015-16.
On our central forecast, the Government is on track to meet its new fiscal mandate with
£16.8 billion to spare. This implies a 65 per cent probability of success given the accuracy
of past forecasts. Achieving the mandate with this margin depends heavily on cuts in public
spending – particularly on public services and administration – implied by the first two years
of the Government’s medium-term spending policy assumption. The previous fiscal
mandate would have been met with £38.8 billion to spare in 2019-20. Public sector net
debt is forecast to peak in 2014-15 and to fall by 0.2 per cent of GDP in 2015-16 and a
further 0.5 per cent of GDP in 2016-17, thereby meeting the new supplementary target. The
previous target would also have been met – the first time we have forecast debt falling as a
share of GDP in 2015-16 since March 2012.
originally posted by: stumason
a reply to: and14263
Er, yes, the OBR confirms it all and in fact predict that the cuts won't have to be so steep as planned in the next parliament owing to a better than performing economy.
The fact you are not even aware of this is just a damning indictment on the level of understanding amongst the electorate, really.
Here, read their latest report and learn something - it won't hurt, promise....
Some snippets for easy reading:
We estimate that public sector net borrowing has fallen to £90.2 billion or 5.0 per cent of
GDP this year – down 41 per cent in cash terms and 51 per cent as a share of GDP relative
to the post-crisis peak in 2009-10. Looking further ahead, on the basis of the medium-term
spending policy assumption provided to us by the Government, we expect borrowing to fall
in each year and to reach a small surplus in 2018-19. The Government no longer assumes
that it will cut public spending as a share of GDP in 2019-20, reducing the projected
surplus in that year to £7.0 billion from £23.1 billion in our December forecast.
The Coalition Government’s policy decisions in this Budget are not expected to have a
material impact on the economy. For the public finances, they ensure that net borrowing is
lower every year to 2018-19 than in our last forecast, that the new fiscal mandate is met
with room to spare in 2017-18, that public spending as a share of GDP no longer falls to a
post-war low in 2019-20, and that the debt-to-GDP ratio falls a year earlier in 2015-16.
On our central forecast, the Government is on track to meet its new fiscal mandate with
£16.8 billion to spare. This implies a 65 per cent probability of success given the accuracy
of past forecasts. Achieving the mandate with this margin depends heavily on cuts in public
spending – particularly on public services and administration – implied by the first two years
of the Government’s medium-term spending policy assumption. The previous fiscal
mandate would have been met with £38.8 billion to spare in 2019-20. Public sector net
debt is forecast to peak in 2014-15 and to fall by 0.2 per cent of GDP in 2015-16 and a
further 0.5 per cent of GDP in 2016-17, thereby meeting the new supplementary target. The
previous target would also have been met – the first time we have forecast debt falling as a
share of GDP in 2015-16 since March 2012.
originally posted by: Soloprotocol
OBR is a well known Tory propaganda machine.
Removed by who? You know you can stand as an independent. No one can prevent you standing for Parliament as long as you don't disqualify yourself
Disqualifications
1.4 Apart from meeting the qualifications for standing for
election, you must also not be disqualified from standing at the
time of nomination and on the day of the election.
Disqualifying offices
1.5 Certain post-holders are disqualified from becoming a
Member of Parliament. These include:
civil servants
members of police forces
members of the armed forces
government-nominated directors of commercial
companies
judges
members of the legislature of any country or territory
outside the Commonwealth
peers who sit and can vote in the House of Lords
bishops of the Church of England (known as the Lords
Spiritual) who are entitled to sit and vote in the House of
Lords
1.6 This list is not comprehensive and detailed lists of
disqualifying offices are set out in the House of Commons
Disqualification Act 1975 (as amended).
Incompatible offices
1.7 Being a Member of the European Parliament is
incompatible with being a Member of the UK Parliament.
originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Tindalos2013
The party political system is outdated and unrepresentative.
It promotes the myth that our options are either A, B or C when the reality is that very, very few of us agree 100% with the policies promoted in any individual party manifesto.
Party politics dictates adherence to the party line over the beliefs of the individual and often before the interests and wishes of constituents and the electorate as a whole.
We have a political system that is outrageously dominated with those from a specific privileged socio-economic background who have absolutely nothing in common with the realities of life of the vast majority of the electorate they purportedly represent.
Their primary concerns are one's of self-advancement and self-gain regardless of national or local well being or best interests.
The contempt and disdain they have for the electorate has increased to such an extent that they rarely even attempt to disguise it - a prime example is the constant denial of a referendum on EU membership despite up to 80% of the electorate wanting one.
To sum it up; we need urgent and radical reform of both our electoral and parliamentary procedures that provides us a representative and accountable system of government - a full system re-boot.
originally posted by: and14263
a reply to: stumason
Actually, a lot has changed. Unemployment is down,the deficit is going down, there will be a surplus in 17/18 etc..
Haha, you sound like one of them!
Got any facts and figures to back this up?
No, neither have the sickening politicians who spout this nonsense all day.
Anymore casually inserted items of support for your beloved party you'd like to slip in with no evidence?
originally posted by: stumason
originally posted by: Soloprotocol
OBR is a well known Tory propaganda machine.
No, it isn't. If Labour get in in 5 weeks, they'll be issuing the same reports based on that Governments budget projections and economic outlooks.
Simply saying something is "well known" doesn't make it so, although I know you only said this to attach the label as to obfuscate the point.
originally posted by: theabsolutetruth
a reply to: stumason
You replied to my comment which was about LOCAL ELECTIONS.
originally posted by: theabsolutetruth
You said this, which is utter garbage:
Removed by who? You know you can stand as an independent. No one can prevent you standing for Parliament as long as you don't disqualify yourself
Its the biggest con in employment figure history. if you added up the hours worked by those on zero hour contracts it would only add up to 20% of the hours that would make up full time jobs. Some people only work a few hours in any one week and others 1 week a month or 2 days a week. Its a joke and a lie. In real terms that have not reduced the unemployment figures!
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: stumason
Unemployment is down because 0-hour contracts are up!
That's not improvement...
That's a band aid on a gash!
Besides, millions are still unemployed, we still wonder how to pay our debts & insecurity for families is rife...
So none of the things he tried to claim improvements on have changed in the slightest!
originally posted by: stumason
a reply to: Soloprotocol
The only reason you dislike the OBR is because they shat all over the SNP's promise of a land filled with the rivers of gold paid for by fanciful Oil prices..
I know your game, Solo...