10,000 Dead Sea Lions Wash up In Calif.

NOOOOOOOOOooo!!

10,000 dead???

Anyone realize just how cute those damn things are?

They're like... dogs of the Sea..

THEY HAVE NO EARS!!

AND THIS: www.youtube.com...

For the love of Christ, we must save these things..

this is one of the saddest threads I've seen on ats. what a tragic waste, and if (as likely) it's manmade, shame on us.

From NOAA:

Our findings to date indicate that a likely contributor to the large number of stranded, malnourished pups was a change in the availability of sea lion prey, especially sardines, a high value food source for nursing mothers. Current data show changes in availability of sea lion prey in Southern California waters was likely a contributor to the UME, the exact mechanism is still under investigation. Sardine spawning grounds shifted further offshore in 2012 and 2013, and while other prey were available (market squid and rockfish), these may not have provided adequate nutrition in the milk of sea lion mothers supporting pups or for newly-weaned pups foraging on their own.

2013-2015 California Sea Lion Unusual Mortality Event in California

What's causing the food shortage seems to be the underlying question.

a reply to: Bluesma
"Could it be radiation spreading from Fukushima?"

I think my reply to that would be a resounding yes,
3-11 may have been the start of the largest geo-biological
disaster never before seen

Rebel 5

My bets are on fukishima ! I read somewhere a while back too (sorry no source) that tuna fish around california are been found to have high levels of radiation, nearly sure i actually read it on a thread on here

a reply to: Bluesma

It's interesting how all this gets blamed on "Climate Change"

Rebel 5

a reply to: Bluesma

I feel sad again. This is almost as tragic as the intentional culling of thousands of wild game by shooting them from a helicopter, picking them off one by one as they ran from the threat. This was also on one of the channel islands and sanctioned by the Dept. of Fish & Game.

it's fukushima. more to follow. a bad scene.

I keep track on this site of many of the deaths, some explained and some not. There are a few others out there trying to keep tabs on the constant death.
www.end-times-prophecy.org...

My first thoughts were maybe the San Andreas or Cascadia faults are acting up. Not necessarily earthquakes, but maybe emitting gases into the ocean water that's killing off the pups or killing their food supply.

Just another theory I'd thought I'd throw out there.

originally posted by: Rezlooper
a reply to: Variable

All's good...then explain these ones to us too, please.

Dead sea creatures wash up on Cali shore

Unexplained die off North Carolina

Mysterious die off of blue fin tuna

Bighorn sheep die off near Yellowstone

thenewdaily.com.au..." target="_blank" class="postlink">A dozen whales dead in Western Australia

Hundeds of dead fish wash up in Indiana reservoir

Fish kill in Las Vegas lake

80 tons of fish die off in Colombia

Hundreds of ducks, birds and eels die of disease in New Zealand

Thousands of fish die off in Malaysia

And all these die offs were this week alone. And that was a quiet week compared to usual when there are anywhere from 15 to 20 die offs per week. Things are far from ALL GOOD but you keep telling yourself that.

Here's the why... www.abovetopsecret.com...

Nice inadvertent plug for your book... again...

It is important to include and not cherry pick facts to support an agenda when trying to find truth.

Correlation is not causation, and all of your links have different explanations for why they occurred.

For example, from your first link, following your source "The Convergence" to a quote from the LA Times, you'll actually find the relevant bits that you leave out, such as it was from January 22nd when the original event happened, and these parts that you didn't mention:

Some experts estimate that warm southern currents may distribute the crabs into Southern California every six to 10 years.

A thick blanket of the fiery red crabs surfaced in the late '90s, and again several years later in the Channel Islands and oceanographers at the time saw them as a possible indicator of an advancing El Nino weather pattern.

Their arrival puts them in league with other nonnative animals seen off the Southern California coast in recent years, such as blue marlin, whale sharks, wahoo, yellowfin tuna, manta rays and by-the-wind sailors – a blob-likejellyfish that skims along the surface of the ocean.

Source

Then your second link, which goes to a blog, has a very simple explanation found in the source as well:

The North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources, Division of Water Resources manages fish kill activity in the state. Environmental Senior Specialist Jill Paxson with the Division of Water Resources said she hasn’t seen the fish kill nor gotten reports of it, but said they are typically caused by one of two factors. One is netting from commercial fishermen who are permitted to discard certain fish that they are not targeting. These fish are then sometimes brought ashore by the winds. The other common cause is a water quality event with a drop in dissolved oxygen. This can happen after a heavy rain with a lot of sediment, or a localized algae bloom.

The third one... LOL...

Is for the death of tuna in a TANK!!! From the very first line of your link:

The bluefin tuna is on the verge of extinction at a Tokyo aquarium known for a breeding program intended to save the species. Since late last year, the fish have been dying one by one, and researchers can’t seem to determine why.

So it can't possibly be related to anything that you suspect, because it's in an artificial environment and because the researchers who study the species don't know why they are dying either.

Also, they started dying in November, not last week. Last week, they gave a status update of the second to last tuna showing up dead.

So, after that third doozie, I had to stop. You might want to consider going back and looking at your sources again, and perhaps re-consider some of the ones you are using in your posts.

Your explanation as to WHY this is all happening, points back to another post of yours, with more of the same.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing whether or not "something is wrong"... I'm just pointing out that whatever it may or may not be, you aren't doing a good job of convincing me of it.

~Namaste

originally posted by: Bluesma
...Officials announce "crisis"

10,000 baby sea lions have washed up dead on a California island, with experts calling the unexplained deaths a “crisis” and “[Pups] are washing ashore at a rate so alarming, rescuers said Thursday, this year is the worst yet”.

Experts at NOAA say that the culprit is rising ocean temperatures
… a NOAA climate expert said that they do not believe the stranding increase is tied to climate change.

Source

Worrisome! I've noticed a lot of people videoing sea lions trying to get into their boats lately.
Is it the changes in the Gulf Stream?
Could it be radiation spreading from Fukushima?
The article says they expect to see more animals dying in the near future.
I am supposed to write what I think- I don't know.

Perhaps, to make this conspiracy worthy.. Reptilian aliens...?? Planet X. Yeah That's the ticket.
Poor things...

Where did the 10,000 come from? I see that number on ENE News, what you linked, but I don't see that number on any of the other links in that source. If I follow one of them to Daily News, this is what it says way way down at the very end, knowing most people won't bother to read the whole thing:

Statewide, more than 1,420 California sea lions have been stranded since January, said Sharon Melin, a wildlife and research biologist for the National Marine Mammal Laboratory/NOAA in Seattle.

Source

There is no mention, anywhere, of 10,000 sea lions washing up dead on the shores of California.

Complete and total nonsense, with a bunch of clever snippets strung together to make you believe something that isn't true.

Propaganda at its finest and you gobbled it up.

~Namaste

Weird # does happen. Like every new year birds or fish or sealions die off, in fact there was a thread at the end of the last year I think about sealions being in the most unlikely of places. Or was that seals! Ah not much of a difference. Same difference you know.
Seal found in the field miles from sea

I was just watching an episode of David Suzuki's "The Nature of Things" about the vast decline of songbird populations in North America. While there are many reasons that can play a part, the stand-out to me by far was when they tested the pond water on farms, a year after a GMO crop harvest, and Glyphosate was still found in the surface water. The water the birds drink from, and the insects they eat drink from, which (in addition to the bee problems) is damaging our entire ecosystem. It would not surprise me that pesticide runoff could be responsible for deaths of other creatures too.

I completely blame Monsanto for this. And every single person, political party and company who has filtered funds into this despicable corporation that cares nothing for the future of this planet and its people and animals but only for its own profits and the ownership of the food supply. What did they seriously think would happen when the very ground-water and soil are poisoned? One doesn't even need to be a scientist to see the logic failure.

The ecosystem did not need tinkering with and they were fools to even try; it was running along in perfect rhythm as it was meant to, before man altered it, irreparably. There IS no coming back from this.

I weep for Mother Earth.

Songbird SOS

originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOne

Where did the 10,000 come from?
There is no mention, anywhere, of 10,000 sea lions washing up dead on the shores of California.

I understand if all these pages were too long to read! Copied from my post way back there on the first page-

the title is a bit misleading, making it seem at first glance that these 10,000 all washed up at the same time... and when you read further, it is clear that is referring to a total found over a short period of time (relatively).

Despite the slightly misleading title (which I didn't create by the way, it's just typical media fashion) the facts are still worth noting (to me).

It is much higher than the natural mortality rate, and evidence of some sort of problem.

The assessment of "close to 10,000" as a cumulative total on one island was stated by Dr. Sharon Melin , a research biologist at NOAA.

She wrote on their site-

The last foraging studies were conducted in 2013 as part of the unusual mortality event (UME) investigation, in which more than 1,500 emaciated pups from the 2013 cohort stranded on Southern California Bight beaches. The UME was still in effect in November 2014 as of this writing and additional studies of foraging behavior, energetics, and disease are planned for FY 2015.

source NOAA

In 2013, 1,500 pups were stranded at one time. The Unusual Mortality Event is still in effect and pups continue to be stranded and die at an unusual rate daily since then- her estimation was of the total within that two year period of this event.

Propaganda at its finest and you gobbled it up.

No, at first I simply trusted readers here are used to reading carefully beyond the sensationalist headlines.
I clarified afterwards, in case some aren't.
I think skepticism is good and critical thought necessary,
but before criticizing it is often a very good idea to read carefully first, and if it is only two pages, that isn't that hard to do. Take your accusation/characterization of my person elsewhere, it is off topic.

eta- oh yeah, and Namaste.

a reply to: Bluesma

One word

RADIATION

a reply to: Variable

Its more likely to be pollutants, apparently Alaskan Orcas, must be disposed of as toxic waste, were killing the seas as well as ourselves. It seems as they are the top of the food chain, they ingest most of the crap in the food chain. Think DDT and Plastics. Plus the high amounts of hormones that end up in the sea.

a reply to: Bluesma

its thhe end of days the great strart all over

originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOne

originally posted by: Rezlooper
a reply to: Variable

All's good...then explain these ones to us too, please.

Dead sea creatures wash up on Cali shore

Unexplained die off North Carolina

Mysterious die off of blue fin tuna

Bighorn sheep die off near Yellowstone

thenewdaily.com.au..." target="_blank" class="postlink">A dozen whales dead in Western Australia

Hundeds of dead fish wash up in Indiana reservoir

Fish kill in Las Vegas lake

80 tons of fish die off in Colombia

Hundreds of ducks, birds and eels die of disease in New Zealand

Thousands of fish die off in Malaysia

And all these die offs were this week alone. And that was a quiet week compared to usual when there are anywhere from 15 to 20 die offs per week. Things are far from ALL GOOD but you keep telling yourself that.

Here's the why... www.abovetopsecret.com...

Nice inadvertent plug for your book... again...

It is important to include and not cherry pick facts to support an agenda when trying to find truth.

Correlation is not causation, and all of your links have different explanations for why they occurred.

For example, from your first link, following your source "The Convergence" to a quote from the LA Times, you'll actually find the relevant bits that you leave out, such as it was from January 22nd when the original event happened, and these parts that you didn't mention:

Some experts estimate that warm southern currents may distribute the crabs into Southern California every six to 10 years.

A thick blanket of the fiery red crabs surfaced in the late '90s, and again several years later in the Channel Islands and oceanographers at the time saw them as a possible indicator of an advancing El Nino weather pattern.

Their arrival puts them in league with other nonnative animals seen off the Southern California coast in recent years, such as blue marlin, whale sharks, wahoo, yellowfin tuna, manta rays and by-the-wind sailors – a blob-likejellyfish that skims along the surface of the ocean.

Source

Then your second link, which goes to a blog, has a very simple explanation found in the source as well:

The North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources, Division of Water Resources manages fish kill activity in the state. Environmental Senior Specialist Jill Paxson with the Division of Water Resources said she hasn’t seen the fish kill nor gotten reports of it, but said they are typically caused by one of two factors. One is netting from commercial fishermen who are permitted to discard certain fish that they are not targeting. These fish are then sometimes brought ashore by the winds. The other common cause is a water quality event with a drop in dissolved oxygen. This can happen after a heavy rain with a lot of sediment, or a localized algae bloom.

The third one... LOL...

Is for the death of tuna in a TANK!!! From the very first line of your link:

The bluefin tuna is on the verge of extinction at a Tokyo aquarium known for a breeding program intended to save the species. Since late last year, the fish have been dying one by one, and researchers can’t seem to determine why.

So it can't possibly be related to anything that you suspect, because it's in an artificial environment and because the researchers who study the species don't know why they are dying either.

Also, they started dying in November, not last week. Last week, they gave a status update of the second to last tuna showing up dead.

So, after that third doozie, I had to stop. You might want to consider going back and looking at your sources again, and perhaps re-consider some of the ones you are using in your posts.

Your explanation as to WHY this is all happening, points back to another post of yours, with more of the same.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing whether or not "something is wrong"... I'm just pointing out that whatever it may or may not be, you aren't doing a good job of convincing me of it.

~Namaste

lmao, a plug for my book. Well, according to you, then I should never post at all since my biggest cause is making people aware of an issue I passionately believe in

Secondly, the point of my post is to show things are not all good no matter what lame excuses they lay out for you. Prior to 2012, the average daily world die off was .5 and now thats near 2.5 per day, regardless of the causes which range from disease, lack of oxygen, algae blooms or warming waters, it all comes back to the same thing...climate change.

Don't make the same mistake as the "climate changists". Don't forget there's a Sun.
Earth's magnetic shield is weak and we had a level 4 magnetic storm from not really big M-flares.
I'm a bit afraid of what will the next X-flare CME do to our psyché.
Check out the SO-News from 03/17
youtu.be...

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