Defending Inerrancy in the Bible...

a reply to: MonarchofBooks1611

It would have been easier just to say "there was a golden ark which stayed at their encampment, and a wooden one which came with the Israelites into battle/war"

Your explanation makes a lot less sense...

but continue

originally posted by: MonarchofBooks1611
a reply to: Akragon

Was Abraham justified by faith or works?

Abraham was justified by faith as a gentile (He was the father of the Jews, but when he was called of God he was STILL a gentile in Ur near Babylon a Giant gentile capital). What he had faith in was a land promised to him that he could not see, and a nation that would come from him that he could not see (no SIGHT on either, thus FAITH). All he had to do was accept the call and take God at His word. This is why Paul uses Abraham as an example for us gentiles in the book of Romans, to Romans gentiles, from the apostle of the gentiles, Paul.

When Abraham became the father of the Jews (by having Issac) he was now a Jew, and God deals with Jews differently than He deals with gentiles (if you don't realize or know this, then you ((the person reading, whoever you may be)) are so far behind the theology curve that I am afraid you will not be able to catch up if you keep reading).
This is why, James (the brother of the apostle John) wrote to THE TWELVE TRIBES (James 1:1) not to gentiles. Jews were required to have works to go along with their salvation. Belief and faith were not enough, they had to work, keep the laws, offer sacrifices, keep the commandments, and "endure until the end" or their righteousness they earned through good works were forfeit:

Ezekiel 33:13 When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it.

Thus, no contradiction, just necessary rightly dividing of the scriptures as commanded to (2 Tim 2:15)
Easy, peasy.

Well that was a nifty explanation... problem is, Abraham wasn't a jew... Nor was he a gentile... The Father of the Jews, sure... but he was the patriarch of all three major religions... that doesn't make him Christian or Muslim either...lol

Neither jew nor gentile existed at the time of Abraham...

No he did not become a jew when he had Issac... the term "jew" originated with Judah, Son of Jacob... So did the tribe and the kingdoms that followed.

Without Judah, there was also no "gentiles"

And in the time of Abraham there wasn't a Covenant with this god... thus there was no instructions for Works or Faith to be justified.... Just sacrifice

In NT times much later... to the Jews Abraham was justified by his works as James states, and to the gentile audience he was justified by Faith as Paul preaches... this is quite clear as was posted in the OP

And perhaps he was justified by both considering Jesus taught "faith plus works"

In any case... The contradiction still stands

Good try though...

a reply to: Akragon

Does God tempt people?

God does tempt people, but not with wickedness, that's the Devil's job and his minions. God tries/proves people like you would a sword in the fire to test you. The word tempt has, as you know with many english words, two meanings to it. To "tempt" in context with God is similar to the "temperature" it takes to make a nice blade/sword for battle. The Devil tempts with "temptation" (usually sexual in nature). Two words, different meanings.

Same with Job & Job. Ones a names, the others a thing you do. Read & Read, one is past tense, one is present tense. MANY words are defined by context only.

Easy peasy.

a reply to: Akragon

Call no man Father...

Matthew 23 8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. 9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. 10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
Verses:
1 Corinthians 4 For even if you had ten thousand others to teach you about Christ, you have only one spiritual father. For I became your father in Christ Jesus when I preached the Good News to you.

Not even worth mentioning, but you are not to call religious leaders your father as Jesus said. Paul was making a statement in 1 Cor 4, he was not commanding people to call him a father. What in the world do you consider a contradiction here?

Easy peasy.

originally posted by: MonarchofBooks1611
a reply to: Akragon

Does God tempt people?

God does tempt people, but not with wickedness, that's the Devil's job and his minions. God tries/proves people like you would a sword in the fire to test you. The word tempt has, as you know with many english words, two meanings to it. To "tempt" in context with God is similar to the "temperature" it takes to make a nice blade/sword for battle. The Devil tempts with "temptation" (usually sexual in nature). Two words, different meanings.

Same with Job & Job. Ones a names, the others a thing you do. Read & Read, one is past tense, one is present tense. MANY words are defined by context only.

Easy peasy.

James 1:13 
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

a reply to: Akragon

James 1:13  Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

context bro, do you not see that? God does not tempt people with evil, just as the verse says. Our own desires handle that with help from the devils.

"God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:" WITH EVIL is the context, just as my original post explained. You did read it right? You are just hell bend on doubting God arn't ya? Good luck explaining that to Him when you meet Him.

a reply to: Akragon

Preaching for money
1 Corinthians 9 In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel.
vs
Matthew 10 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. 8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

Two different gospels being preached here for starters. Jesus was preaching the gospel of the "kingdom" (physical), thus no physical things were needed for His followers since their employer (God) would provide for their services.

Paul was talking about the gospel of the grace of God (1 Cor 15:1-4 a spiritual things that you had to believe on by faith) This is the gospel of the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. When Jesus told His followers to preach the gospel, there was NO DEATH, BURIAL, or RESURRECTION at all. Jesus had not died yet. Thus, two gospels. (There are actually 7 gospels in all in the Bible). And because of this, since all things are spiritual right now, we are to take care of our members our self with physical helps and goods. (money)

Easy peasy. (you just have to know correct theology and doctrine)

a reply to: Akragon

The God of the Living Vs The God of the dead AND the living?

This is dealing with "dying to your flesh" as Romans chapter 6 & 7 of the same book talk about. You are to kill your flesh daily (die to the lusts and desires of it) to walk with God. The verse is talking about God is still God to the people that are living for Him and DYING to their flesh daily, and He is still God of thoses that are living for their flesh but not dying to flesh daily.

Which is a great argument proving eternal security (once saved always saved) The context of the passage is dealing with not judging your brother or sister in Christ because they are not living like you live. (a calvinist lordship salvation theme).

a reply to: Akragon

Jesus states the world is under Satans control... Paul says the Rulers are Ordained by God

No problem here. The world and its system are under the Devil's control, and yes, God does put people in power based on judgment (not sovereignty as biblical illiterates assert). If the country is doing well morally, God will give them good leadership based on the prayers and requests of the people there, because the people refuse to submit to Satan and Satan's authority is taken away by the free will action of the people.

Also, God will put a wicked ruler in place to damn a country and punish it through war and death, to which Satan is ticked pink about. We reap what we sow.

Many, many Bible verse back up these two statements, but if you have any Bible knowledge you already know these statements to be fact.

a reply to: Akragon

All questions answered, easily. Any more you want me to flesh out, or do you recant that God has errors in His book He dictated? I believe God, not silly scholars or stuffed shirt "intellectuals"

1 Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.