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I thought scientists already knew that given enough time, a 747 would automatically assemble itself, and fly away.
originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: TheWhiteKnight
I thought scientists already knew that given enough time, a 747 would automatically assemble itself, and fly away.
It is real simple. We supposed to believe a being/god infinitely more complex than a 747 automatically assembled itself yet remains invisible/undetectable to us exists and is out there watching everything we do?
I know it seems like a stupid question, but which seems more plausible out of those scenarios. 747 or god?
What are the odds?
originally posted by: Autorico
a reply to: InverseLookingGlass
If the Vatican can say that the belief in ETs doesn't go against god, they can do the same for this.
God, once you account for the fact the 747 self assembly would have to be done under the laws of this universe, and God lives outside this universe where the rules of this one do not necessarily apply.
Either way the only question is were all the nucleic acids created ONLY right handed? If they were, this is meaningful, if they were not, then it's 100% impossible for life to have formed in these conditions.
originally posted by: Autorico
a reply to: SirKonstantin
I'm open to learning about all religion/faith/spirituality ideas.
originally posted by: Quadlink
I worry about the synthetic life being created !
www.theguardian.com...
www.ted.com...
I have always supported the theory of Panspermia from first encountering the theory many many years ago.
Great post
originally posted by: TheWhiteKnight
I thought scientists already knew that given enough time, a 747 would automatically assemble itself, and fly away. Hence, by this logic, we are evolved. We evolved from slime and goo at the bottom of a hole.
It's pretty simple really. We came from anywhere, except from a conscious master called God.
# 390
originally posted by: Grimpachi
Once someone can show some evidence that a god lives then we can have that conversation about it living outside of the universe.
One step at a time.
How about explaining why right handed nucleic acids are important? Now watch the left hand.
At a chemical level, a deep bias permeates all of biology. The molecules that make up DNA and other nucleic acids such as RNA have an inherent “handedness.” These molecules can exist in two mirror image forms, but only the right-handed version is found in living organisms. Handedness serves an essential function in living beings; many of the chemical reactions that drive our cells only work with molecules of the correct handedness. But the pre-biological building blocks of life didn’t exhibit such an overwhelming bias. Some were left-handed and some right. So how did right-handed RNA emerge from a mix of molecules?
Joyce was able to build RNA out of right-handed building blocks, as others had done before him. But when he added in left-handed molecules, mimicking the conditions on the early Earth, everything came to a halt. “Our paper said if you have [both] forms in the same place at the same time, you can’t even get started,” Joyce said.
The difference between simple life and very highly sophisticated beings is incomprehensible.
funny thing how scientists hate creationism, but in the same time they practice - creationism...
originally posted by: Lucid Lunacy
a reply to: rickymouse
The difference between simple life and very highly sophisticated beings is incomprehensible.
Know Your Fallacy
originally posted by: Elton
Phys.org
A team of chemists working at the MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology, at Cambridge in the UK believes they have solved the mystery of how it was possible for life to begin on Earth over four billion years ago. In their paper published in the journal Nature Chemistry, the team describes how they were able to map reactions that produced two and three-carbon sugars, amino acids, ribonucleotides and glycerol—the material necessary for metabolism and for creating the building blocks of proteins and ribonucleic acid molecules and also for allowing for the creation of lipids that form cell membranes.
Wait, what!!?!
they believe they have found a way to show that everything necessary for life to evolve could have done so from just hydrogen sulfide, hydrogen cyanide and ultraviolet light and that those building blocks could have all existed at the same time—in their paper, they report that using just those three basic ingredients they were able to produce more than 50 nucleic acids—precursors to DNA and RNA molecules.
They note that early meteorites carried with them ingredients that would react with nitrogen already in the atmosphere, producing a lot of hydrogen cyanide. By dissolving in water, it could have very easily come into contact with hydrogen sulfide, while being exposed to ultraviolet light from the sun. And that, they claim, would have been all that was needed to get things going.
Pretty exciting news, if it is confirmed by other scientists this shows a working (theoretical) beginning of life, abiogenesis anyone?
Abstract of paper: nature.com
originally posted by: Lucid Lunacy
a reply to: donhuangenaro
funny thing how scientists hate creationism, but in the same time they practice - creationism...
That's ludicrous. Creationism entails divine origin.
Science doesn't hate Creationism, it loves Truth. Blame your particular religion's account for creation lacking in evidence.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Lucid Lunacy
a reply to: donhuangenaro
funny thing how scientists hate creationism, but in the same time they practice - creationism...
That's ludicrous. Creationism entails divine origin.
Science doesn't hate Creationism, it loves Truth. Blame your particular religion's account for creation lacking in evidence.
Science isn't really concerned with truth. It is focused upon knowledge (whether true or false).
I seem to recall mention of a logical condition that its theories must be falsifiable.
And we all know that every theory gets discarded and replaced with newer understandings and it happens all the time, so how could it be truth?
Religions love truths. Science doesn't give a damn.