DNA Nanobots to Treat Disease in First Human Trial

Nice nanobots! We need more of this tech and more personalized for individual use. For example we need nanobots to be able to perform countless functions according to our personal desires, makeup, anti ageing, hair, skin color, make us stronger, give more energy, etc. . . .

a reply to: ATF1886

How many lives are on the brink due to hunger and water shortages. I think that heavily outweighs those with illness. And of those illnesses many are caused by the malnutrition.

What would you rather have plentiful people or plentiful food, because you can't have both.

Sorry but I would rather look after the wellness of myself first before the ones that their time has already come and passed.

originally posted by: TheLotLizard
a reply to: ATF1886

How many lives are on the brink due to hunger and water shortages. I think that heavily outweighs those with illness. And of those illnesses many are caused by the malnutrition.

Noncommunicable diseases were responsible for 68% of all deaths globally in 2012, up from 60% in 2000. The 4 main NCDs are cardiovascular diseases, cancers, diabetes and chronic lung diseases. Communicable, maternal, neonatal and nutrition conditions collectively were responsible for 23% of global deaths, and injuries caused 9% of all deaths.

More lives are on the brink due to heart and lung disease, cardiovascular disease, and diabetes than malnutrition.

In low-income countries, nearly 4 in every 10 deaths are among children under 15 years, and only 2 in every 10 deaths are among people aged 70 years and older. People predominantly die of infectious diseases: lower respiratory infections, HIV/AIDS, diarrhoeal diseases, malaria and tuberculosis collectively account for almost one third of all deaths in these countries. Complications of childbirth due to prematurity, and birth asphyxia and birth trauma are among the leading causes of death, claiming the lives of many newborns and infants.

Even in poor countries, people are more likely to die of infectious disease than malnutrition. The world is not full of starving masses like you think it is.

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What would you rather have plentiful people or plentiful food, because you can't have both.

Sure you can. Do you think all possible present and future food production resources are already being used at maximum capacity?

Sorry but I would rather look after the wellness of myself first before the ones that their time has already come and passed.

You are not one of the Moirai, able to determine when one's thread has come to an end. Look after your own fate, first.

As I have suffered 30 years as a type 1 diabetic, from a very young age.

I would love to try this.. I would like to know what it's like to be like everyone else.

I would LOVE to be able to eat a meal, and not worry about how much sugar and carbs I am eating, and must account for.

I would like to not be tired. I would love to retain my health, as I have been fortunate to not have any serious damage from my disease..... yet.

Sign me up.

How many times has world hunger been solved.3.2.1. Never sorry try again this is a possible advancement for the good of society ,

Sorry but I would rather look after the wellness of myself first before the ones that their time has already come and passed.

a reply to: TheLotLizard

sorry my time is now and this is my health I haven't passed and I have a family to take care of do you deny me a chance at seeing my kids grow up or see my daughter get married?

What would you rather have plentiful people or plentiful food, because you can't have both. 

plentiful food and people you cannot put a price on both let alone the same category.

Hey another one and one that has beat me in year duration all respect Grand Poobah!! a reply to: Cygnis

a reply to: TheLotLizard

I'm confused. Are you saying disease should never be treated? Or just not treated successfully? Or that poor people shouldn't be treated and cured, only the rich? Or what?

...I do have concerns about DNA nanobots, but do not see their potential success as a threat to our food security.

This is a big breakthrough. First use all the natural seeds of the planet that we know of , but if nothing works, then this would be a huge step forward.

a reply to: ATF1886

Your family has no impact on my life whatsoever.

So therefore it falls within the bounds of looking after myself first. Why should I go through the trouble myself of having to think about your safety and prosperity when it's hard enough for myself?

Frankly put its your own problem and your own responsibility, no one else's. If you think it should be others responsibility to look after you and your family, you should rethink your priorities.

I'm guessing your daughter is too young to marry now. But when she does how will she survive having to work multiple jobs to afford food and housing. Because at the way its going now, unless she opens her legs to an already wealthy person, she's going to end up on supplemental welfare.

originally posted by: soficrow
a reply to: TheLotLizard

I'm confused. Are you saying disease should never be treated? Or just not treated successfully? Or that poor people shouldn't be treated and cured, only the rich? Or what?

...I do have concerns about DNA nanobots, but do not see their potential success as a threat to our food security.

I'm saying that disease should be managed not cured. I think If we did it would hurt more in the end.

originally posted by: soficrow
a reply to: ATF1886

Are you absolutely certain you want trillions of invisible machines inside your body?



.....Thanks for responding. ; )

You already do.
It's called your immune system.
You do also know that a large % of your physical mass is not even Human DNA, right? It's foreign organisms calling your body home.
Your own stomach houses millions of bacteria which live inside you and assist you to break down and process everything you eat.

This is made from DNA too, they're not little shrunken spaceships injected into the body. They are no different to the cells your body already creates to combat various things, only adjusted to specifically target the cells causing you damage.

a reply to: TheLotLizard

I'm saying that disease should be managed not cured. I think If we did it would hurt more in the end.

So you support the status quo and Big Pharma's strategy: Make people sick, block the cures, "manage" the disease by selling meds-for-life, kill victims off when they get too debilitated and disabled to push themselves any more.

fyi - I do not support that plan.

originally posted by: TheLotLizard
So therefore it falls within the bounds of looking after myself first. Why should I go through the trouble myself of having to think about your safety and prosperity when it's hard enough for myself?

Frankly put its your own problem and your own responsibility, no one else's. If you think it should be others responsibility to look after you and your family, you should rethink your priorities.

You know, your opinion was quite common, back in the 1800's when the vast majority of the Human population were living as slaves under an extreme minority of super wealthy industrialists and royalty.

You know why it all changed and why your mode of utterly selfish thinking was wiped out? Because those super-greedy wealthy people worked out that a good society only exists when all have security and safety, that they too become targets for disease and crime (not to mention violent revolution) when society has no rules and operates on the notion of "myself before everyone else".

You know, you should really be incredibly thankful that millions of people reject this selfish mentality completely, because if they didn't you would probably not exist. Your great, great, great grandparents would have been wiped out by a plague a long time ago, thanks to the rampant spread of disease that was only brought under control when we ended the society where debt prisons and workhouses were common.

You probably think you just arrived here from Royal stock or something, when the reality is your distant relatives probably only managed to survive through the kindness of a better society.

You really should look into your own family history, I can almost guarantee you'll change your selfish mentality as a result.

a reply to: Rocker2013

You already do.
It's called your immune system.
You do also know that a large % of your physical mass is not even Human DNA, right? It's foreign organisms calling your body home.
Your own stomach houses millions of bacteria which live inside you and assist you to break down and process everything you eat.

Uh huh. Yep. I know that. And I know it's a rather marvellous system - adaptive on the turn of a dime, self-supporting and self-sustaining, billions of years in development. Already tweaked too.

This is made from DNA too, they're not little shrunken spaceships injected into the body. They are no different to the cells your body already creates to combat various things, only adjusted to specifically target the cells causing you damage.

If DNA nanobots are "no different to the cells my body already creates" then they have the ability to adapt and evolve. Not sure we should be messing' with that.

a reply to: soficrow

This technological breakthrough will be a game-changer.
The moment we can program a DNA nanobot to seek out and destroy a dangerous cell in the Human body we can basically wipe out all diseases in the blink of an eye, and treat all cancers with ease and efficiency.
The only stumbling block might be the cost of production, but then this can be developed and brought down over time too.

This really is an exciting time to be alive, and it's likely a lot of us will be alive for far longer than any of our predecessors thanks to medical breakthroughs like this!

originally posted by: soficrow
If DNA nanobots are "no different to the cells my body already creates" then they have the ability to adapt and evolve. Not sure we should be messing' with that.

It's your own body which adapts and evolves, to produce the right response for the right invasion.
Your immune system creates cells to attack and destroy an alien cell, it's like a factory pushing out soldiers to attack an invading army, arming those soldiers with different weapons to suit the force they encounter.

The problem arises when our immune system cannot work out the correct "weapon" to arm the soldiers with, or so overpowered by sheer force that it cannot fight off the army.

It seems that all this process is doing is either telling the immune system what weapons it should be using to fight a particular enemy, or boosting the released army with SAS trained specialists

a reply to: Rocker2013
a reply to: Rocker2013

This technological breakthrough will be a game-changer.
The moment we can program a DNA nanobot to seek out and destroy a dangerous cell in the Human body we can basically wipe out all diseases in the blink of an eye, and treat all cancers with ease and efficiency.

I fear it may be a game-changer in ways we can't begin to imagine. Fact is, NO ONE knows how the immune system works. NO ONE knows how adaptation and evolution really work. New evidence accumulates, but it is beyond hubris to think we know enough to start manipulating these processes.

As you pointed out earlier, we are a cooperative conglomeration of viruses and microbes - that's what we are made of, how we are made, and how we came to be. The process of such ongoing integration and assimilation is obviously sometimes painful, and can cause disease, but it works. In this light,
"disease" is a temporary (by)product of adaptation and evolution.

The other thing that's monumentally clear is that environment is the key to adaptation and evolution - epigenetics shows that we respond rapidly to environmental change, but not necessarily permanently (likely depending on whether or not the environmental changes are permanent).

In short, it is monumentally stupid to modify the products of environmental change without attending to the environmental factors that triggered the change. Our immune systems and epigenetic adaptations will just start the ("disease"-making) process all over again.

a reply to: soficrow

The story about his daughter and going into surgery really brought this home. Until you have a sick child it is hard to comprehend the level of worrying and fear you feel. This technology and the men/women making it safe and useful will really change this world for the better.



So many people needlessly dying for treatable issues will one day be saved. We are so bent on destruction and security it is time for a paradigm shift of thought and values. Empathy and compassion should be the traits we admire.

In 1986 "Engines of Creation: the coming era of nanotechnology" by K. Eric Drexler was published.

29 years later his predictions have come to fruition.

Fascinating times we're living in.

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a reply to: Rocker2013

First off that utterly selfish way of thinking is what is called a primal instinct. What would you like me to do, remove my hypothalamus? Everyone on this planet has it like it or not. Humanity survived the plague because of that instinct and I for one am glad we had it. If they didn't humanity would have died out back in the first ice age.

Secondly I know my family history back thirteen generations. Can you say the same? I guess the utterly selfish way of thinking is why I'm here, why we're all here. Why else would they escape hardship and economical depression to come to America? Why did the slaves create the underground railroad to the north? Also we should consider now selfish to your standards any revolution that has happened.

It's called survival.

Now inject everyone in the world with self replicating nanobots. Would we be even human anymore? We're going from survival to dependency. I don't care if it's a success for a millennium, our species would eventually need it to physically live. Our immune system would eventually "devolve" creating a population with nanobot created HIV.

If there are nanobots at work inside of our body full time what's keeping it from being transferred to offspring? After generations pass almost everyone would be harboring them. Sounds like an infectious disease meant to heal. But the catch is they're all programmed. If one changes its programming and its harmful to you, it will take over and be the thing you're trying to prevent.

Yea long reply long day at work lol.