Ferguson, Population of 21,000 Yet 16,000 People Have Outstanding Arrest Warrants?

What I don't understand, is if the main priority of the police in Ferguson is to generate revenue, then why target the poor?

I have been in towns where the cops would stop people with out of state plates and give them tickets for bogus things.

Yes these people could stay in the state or come back to fight the tickets.
But it would not be worth it and many knowing that the cities would not extradite them half way across the US just never did anything but throw away the tickets.

a reply to: jude11

The link you provided does NOT say residents..

Is that a lie?

The Shocking Finding From the DOJ's Ferguson Report That Nobody Has Noticed: In Ferguson, a city with a population of 21,000, 16,000 people have outstanding arrest warrants, meaning that they are currently actively wanted by the police.

Says PEOPLE

HMMMMMMM

Seems someone has an agenda..

originally posted by: semperfortis
The majority of arrest warrants any municipality has are always "Bench Warrants" , warrants issued by a judge for not appearing for trial, not paying a fine or not completing a court ordered action such as community service..

Now pay attention here..

The VAST MAJORITY are for people that DO NOT LIVE in the municipality..

The title of this is simply FALSE

People pass through, get a ticket and decide to not take care of it. A Bench Warrant is issued and there is no expiration so it generally sits for extended periods of time.

For the thinking Members..

originally posted by: semperfortis
a reply to: jude11

The link you provided does NOT say residents..

Is that a lie?

The Shocking Finding From the DOJ's Ferguson Report That Nobody Has Noticed: In Ferguson, a city with a population of 21,000, 16,000 people have outstanding arrest warrants, meaning that they are currently actively wanted by the police.

Says PEOPLE

HMMMMMMM

Seems someone has an agenda..

The thousands upon thousands of warrants that are issued, according to the DOJ, are "not to protect public safety but rather to facilitate fine collection." Residents are routinely charged with minor administrative infractions. Most of the arrest warrants stem from traffic violations, but nearly every conceivable human behavior is criminalized.

refreshingnews99.blogspot.in...

Yes there truly does seem to be an agenda.

It's just not mine.

Jude11

a reply to: jude11

Reading comprehension is quite clear here

The Shocking Finding From the DOJ's Ferguson Report That Nobody Has Noticed: In Ferguson, a city with a population of 21,000, 16,000 people have outstanding arrest warrants, meaning that they are currently actively wanted by the police.

PEOPLE

Residents are routinely charged with minor administrative infractions.

NO WHERE does your link say the warrants are ALL RESIDENTS

It does not even hint at it

Sheesh...

This is a farce..

originally posted by: semperfortis
a reply to: jude11

Reading comprehension is quite clear here

The Shocking Finding From the DOJ's Ferguson Report That Nobody Has Noticed: In Ferguson, a city with a population of 21,000, 16,000 people have outstanding arrest warrants, meaning that they are currently actively wanted by the police.

PEOPLE

Residents are routinely charged with minor administrative infractions.

NO WHERE does your link say the warrants are ALL RESIDENTS

It does not even hint at it

Sheesh...

This is a farce..

First, you state there is no mention of RESIDENT in the provided links and now you call reading comprehension into the mix after you see the term RESIDENT in the link?

Too early for this. I'll be back later.

Jude11

a reply to: jude11

Again..

English comprehension 101...

I said....

There was no reference to ALL the warrants being RESIDENTS

and THERE IS NOT

This thread was designed for hyperbole .. No other reason..

There is enough going on in that area without other people making it worse by misrepresenting and making up facts to make it seem worse..

originally posted by: semperfortis

originally posted by: semperfortis
The majority of arrest warrants any municipality has are always "Bench Warrants" , warrants issued by a judge for not appearing for trial, not paying a fine or not completing a court ordered action such as community service..

Now pay attention here..

The VAST MAJORITY are for people that DO NOT LIVE in the municipality..

The title of this is simply FALSE

People pass through, get a ticket and decide to not take care of it. A Bench Warrant is issued and there is no expiration so it generally sits for extended periods of time.

For the thinking Members..

Nice insult mod.

originally posted by: Bone75
What I don't understand, is if the main priority of the police in Ferguson is to generate revenue, then why target the poor?

They would have the least ability to fight back, the poor tend to plea more and unlike people of means lawyer-up less.

originally posted by: semperfortis
a reply to: jude11

Again..

English comprehension 101...

I said....

There was no reference to ALL the warrants being RESIDENTS

and THERE IS NOT

This thread was designed for hyperbole .. No other reason..

There is enough going on in that area without other people making it worse by misrepresenting and making up facts to make it seem worse..

As an impartial observer I can't help but notice how you keep moving the goal posts in your argument. Also, the way you're accusing someone of reading/english comprehension when it seems to be you, in fact, that is having issues in that area.
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Let's take a look chronologically, shall we?

First:

"The link you provided does NOT say residents..

Is that a lie? "

In the quote above you make no mention of the word "ALL".

Second:

"NO WHERE does your link say the warrants are ALL RESIDENTS

It does not even hint at it"

Here's where you insert the word "ALL" when you realize you were wrong.
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I do think an argument can be made that these stats mean nothing or are being used to sensationalize the situation in Ferguson. However, you accused someone of having poor "english comprehension" and being a "liar", yet it appears that you are guilty of both counts.

Maybe try to structure your argument with facts and not let emotions get in the way. Makes for more fruitful discourse.

originally posted by: IslandOfMisfitToys

originally posted by: semperfortis

originally posted by: semperfortis
The majority of arrest warrants any municipality has are always "Bench Warrants" , warrants issued by a judge for not appearing for trial, not paying a fine or not completing a court ordered action such as community service..

Now pay attention here..

The VAST MAJORITY are for people that DO NOT LIVE in the municipality..

The title of this is simply FALSE

People pass through, get a ticket and decide to not take care of it. A Bench Warrant is issued and there is no expiration so it generally sits for extended periods of time.

For the thinking Members..

Nice insult mod.

Yeah, we get that on ATS sometimes. From SOME Mods more than others.

SOME Mods, like SOME police have no fear of repercussions because there are none.

Insult a Mod, get a warning. Insult a member...?

Jude11

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: semperfortis
The majority of arrest warrants any municipality has are always "Bench Warrants" , warrants issued by a judge for not appearing for trial, not paying a fine or not completing a court ordered action such as community service..

Now pay attention here..

The VAST MAJORITY are for people that DO NOT LIVE in the municipality..

The title of this is simply FALSE

People pass through, get a ticket and decide to not take care of it. A Bench Warrant is issued and there is no expiration so it generally sits for extended periods of time.

Thanks for clearing that up because I immediately thought after reading the title that if your born black in Ferguson, then you are automatically issued a warrant

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there is a town in the same county as Ferguson that has 3600 inhabitants but 61 thousand warrants. that town has something like 12 policemen.

originally posted by: stormbringer1701

originally posted by: MALBOSIA

originally posted by: semperfortis
The majority of arrest warrants any municipality has are always "Bench Warrants" , warrants issued by a judge for not appearing for trial, not paying a fine or not completing a court ordered action such as community service..

Now pay attention here..

The VAST MAJORITY are for people that DO NOT LIVE in the municipality..

The title of this is simply FALSE

People pass through, get a ticket and decide to not take care of it. A Bench Warrant is issued and there is no expiration so it generally sits for extended periods of time.

Thanks for clearing that up because I immediately thought after reading the title that if your born black in Ferguson, then you are automatically issued a warrant

.

there is a town in the same county as Ferguson that has 3600 inhabitants but 61 thousand warrants. that town has something like 12 policemen.

That's a lot of overtime. Wondering how they're getting paid?

Wait, I can guess.

Peace

originally posted by: Parthin
I guarantee after some more of the mass media's destructive lies about Ferguson, the place will become a virtual wasteland. The only stores left will be liquor stores. They're so busy turning it into a little Detroit, they forgot about the people who are trying to live there. Disgusting.
a reply to: Blaine91555

That is without question the saddest part of this whole thing. By the time the cop haters, anarchists, looters, violent nut jobs, politicians and professional race baiters get finished with Ferguson, there won't be a heck of a lot left.

Amazing how people think that the solution to their issues is to destroy the town and it's future. The real story is those who are staying home, getting their kids to school, going to work, paying their bills and still managing to engage in peaceful protest, while the creeps of the world tear their lives apart around them for attention.

That's what a lot of this is really about is attention. Politicians need their face time, professional race baiters like Sharpton need their money, looters just hover looking for opportunities and could give a damn less about Ferguson. The violent people are having orgasms over the whole thing and spamming the Internet with their venom, distortions and outright lies. I can sort of forgive the illiterates who are still running around unaware the whole "hands up" thing was a lie, but the leaders who should be educating them are the ones that should suffer, not the decent people of Ferguson who have to live there after the creeps leave town.

MLK is most certainly rolling over in his grave. A great mans life wasted and people like the race baiters and politicians capitalizing on it makes me want to vomit.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
- Martin Luther King Jr. -

edit on 3/15/2015 by Blaine91555 because: (no reason given)

a reply to: jude11

Financial vampirism. Sometimes I truly wonder if it's out of hatred or just sheer greed. Nowadays, it's strickly about the money.

After reading the DOJ report, the court system started making big money, going into the millions off of enforcing "municipal codes" within Ferguson. It's because they near the bottom of the economic scale.

It's a vicious cycle, the more you enforce.. the more money you make. Cops are working for quota thanks to the court/prison system, where someone makes money every step of the way.

a reply to: jude11

Another sensationalized article meant to stir up the hatred between two opposing sides. This is exactly why nothing ever get solved in this country.

the minute cops could use radar guns as evidence without providing that evidence to the driver or court you had a disconnect between innocent until proven guilty and guilty by attendance.

originally posted by: semperfortis
a reply to: jude11

The link you provided does NOT say residents..

Is that a lie?

The Shocking Finding From the DOJ's Ferguson Report That Nobody Has Noticed: In Ferguson, a city with a population of 21,000, 16,000 people have outstanding arrest warrants, meaning that they are currently actively wanted by the police.

Says PEOPLE

HMMMMMMM

Seems someone has an agenda..

Here's something for 'thinking members' then:
RedState: Many Conservatives are Blowing it on the Ferguson DOJ Report

Interpreting the news out of Ferguson has become a part of ideological tribalism in which, if you are a conservative you stand for the Ferguson PD and if you are a liberal you stand against them. Thus, liberals have become highly resistant to assimilating information that strongly suggests that “hands up, don’t shoot” never happened. Conservatives, on the other hand, have become highly resistant to assimilating information that strongly suggests that the Ferguson PD – as with many other municipal police departments in the country – truly is out of control, in that it recklessly violates the constitutional rights of the citizens of Ferguson and does so in a manner that has a clearly disproportionate impact on minorities.
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Even if you read only the parts of the Ferguson DOJ report that come directly from the files of the FPD (which is to say, files that would be most favorable to the Department), the report paints an incredibly damning picture of the Ferguson Police Department.

He goes on, extensively, to his reasoning for this assessment. This has become an ideological battleground in the minds of a lot of people, when it shouldn't be.

Again, he looked at only the Ferguson Police Department records, and this is the (lengthy) breakdown divided into these sections:

I. The Ferguson Police Department acts almost exclusively as a revenue generation machine for the city.
II. The Ferguson PD Habitually Uses Excessive Force
III. The Ferguson PD has Utterly Failed to Supervise its Officers’ Use of Force
IV. The Ferguson PD Systematically Punishes Residents of Ferguson for ‘Contempt of Cop’
V. The Evidence of Racial Bias in the Administration of Justice in Ferguson is Overwhelming

There is a great amount of detail in this article. Please read it before absolving FPD of wrongdoing.