Alien Autopsy: 1969 UFO crash in Russia

Im not an Alien/UFO debunker... so I won't say much about this...

I shall leave this to those who are and have maybe done some research on the issue...

Sorry if its been posted before... I've never seen it until this morning

Apparently even though the crash happened in 1969 the bodies were frozen until the 90's

originally posted by: Akragon
Im not an Alien/UFC debunker..

I hope not, the UFC is real and confirmed. Real fights, real injuries, real weight classes.

On a serious note, I'm going to have to do some investigation on this. Haven't heard about this one.

a reply to: TrueMessiah

Fixed... thanks

I'm sure it's fake but this video really depressed me to the point where I couldn't finish it. Go figure.

Anyway cool catch and thanks for the upload. S&F

Very cool even if not real, but what's up with the last 20 seconds of the video? It appears to show a woman tied to a table as if a scene from a scifi/horror movie

www.abovetopsecret.com...

These folks say it's from a documentary that mixed real events with fake ones (this being a fake one).

a reply to: Akragon

I will say the ufo film is a fake because the film quality shows none of them small random black dots you see in film.
It looks like it was shot in the 80s-90 using an analogue filmless video cam.
The Alien film is probably fake because the Alien is the size of a doll, which has been done to deliberately make it harder for us to examine details. Generally im open minded on these things but these ones look like fakes.

originally posted by: riffraff
Very cool even if not real, but what's up with the last 20 seconds of the video? It appears to show a woman tied to a table as if a scene from a scifi/horror movie

Had to go back and watch the end. That was weird! Maybe Shamrock6 is onto something.

ETA: Guess this has been covered although it was the first time I saw the autopsy. I've seen the footage of the "craft" before but the stills in the other thread pretty much are definitive proof of fakery IMO. Styrofoam and spray paint. Oh well maybe next time.

If this is a hoax, then it's a hoax that paid off.
$10,000 was paid to obtain this footage for a TNT documentary that aired in the late 1990s.

originally posted by: TrueMessiah
If this is a hoax, then it's a hoax that paid off.
$10,000 was paid to obtain this footage for a TNT documentary that aired in the late 1990s.

If it is a hoax, I think it was masterfully done. Did anyone else notice that the rib cage was fractured and an intestine was wrapped around the fracture?
To me that was kinda like the Patterson bigfoot frame when you see that bigfoot has breasts.
If it was a hoax it was done by someone much, much smarter than me.
I'm on the fence but leaning toward the autopsy being real.

Edit: on second watch I noticed there was no fascia, no vasculature, and absolutely no musculature. Just skin and bones.
I have to think this was just a well made hoax.

a reply to: Kukri

Another site had this tidbit: the gloves are identified as blue nitrile surgical gloves, which weren't made until the 1980s.

Not a smoking gun, as some sites are saying the autopsy occurred in '69, others are saying the 90s (as the OP did).

My personal opinion: the craft construction is suspect. The lack of damage behind the craft to the forest is suspect. The gloves, toss up. Using an exacto knife instead of a scalpel is strange. So does leaving the body on ice for 30 years before doing anything with it. I can't come up with a good reason why the Sovs would rush out there to recover everything and then be all "meh, let's go get lunch....for the next 30 years."

ETA - no I can't link the site with the gloves comment. I'm pretty sure it's on the no-no list for ATS. It didn't take a ton of work to find it though

So what do people derive from such an involved hoax? I don't see anyone claiming "gotcha"! So why would they fabricate a hoax and then not claim credit for it? Just askin'.

a reply to: Shamrock6

exacto knife? No. You should take a closer look. No exacto knife that that exists.

Not sure what this is, but if a hoax, it's pretty elaborate. What did they have to gain by making this hoax?

a reply to: Bilk22

Not too many scalpels with a blade like that, either. Looks a lot more like the common xacto blade than the common scalpel blade.

What does anybody gain from a hoax? Fame. Notoriety. Since it was stuck in the middle of a TV show, ratings? Ad revenue?

a reply to: Akragon

I'm sure the alien body is real. The craft may or may not be real. Difficult to tell with the extremely brief look we get at it. It would make sense though that the ship would be relatively modest in size seeing as how the pilot/passenger is only a foot tall at best. More than plausible imo.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Bilk22

Not too many scalpels with a blade like that, either. Looks a lot more like the common xacto blade than the common scalpel blade.

What does anybody gain from a hoax? Fame. Notoriety. Since it was stuck in the middle of a TV show, ratings? Ad revenue?

First, look at the handle of your exacto knife and see if it looks like the one in the video. Second, where is the person who claimed the "fame and notoriety"? Got a name?

a reply to: Shamrock6

Those pics of the craft are a dead give away to me. No earth expulsion from the impact (lack of) crater no ground heave just like it's sitting on top.Gaping seams on the superstructure and like you said uneven and crude bevelling, the lousy cross hatch spray paint job no apparent crumpling or separation of the craft from impact. Looks like a cheap slap together do it in a shop and piece together on site stage prop. The autopsy reminded me of a high school frog autopsy. No connective tissue or muscle or tendons. The internals seemed to be haphazard and unconnected in any normal manner. Lots of stuff that didn't sit right with me.

The head and eyes were sorta freaky though so the start had me going.

originally posted by: Kukri
a reply to: Shamrock6

Those pics of the craft are a dead give away to me. No earth expulsion from the impact (lack of) crater no ground heave just like it's sitting on top.Gaping seams on the superstructure and like you said uneven and crude bevelling, the lousy cross hatch spray paint job no apparent crumpling or separation of the craft from impact. Looks like a cheap slap together do it in a shop and piece together on site stage prop. The autopsy reminded me of a high school frog autopsy. No connective tissue or muscle or tendons. The internals seemed to be haphazard and unconnected in any normal manner. Lots of stuff that didn't sit right with me.

The head and eyes were sorta freaky though so the start had me going.

You guys are funny. The video is posted in 240 and you can see seams and bevelling? LOL Just too funny.

I've seen this video before. . What I do find strange is that the ground surrounding the object hasn't been stirred up by the crash . It's like the UFO is molten into the ground. I would think more damage to the surrounding area had be done after such a crash. Other then that great video to watch. .

originally posted by: 0bserver1
I've seen this video before. . What I do find strange is that the ground surrounding the object hasn't been stirred up by the crash . It's like the UFO is molten into the ground. I would think more damage to the surrounding area had be done after such a crash. Other then that great video to watch. .

There's obviously no reference to the time frame of the crash relative to the retrieval of the craft. The thing could have been sitting there for quite some time. There's snow on the ground so what ever scarring done to the ground is covered by snow and possibly ice.