How to be humble

These are just some random thoughts. It is all connected though it is also very random. It has no relevant information to convey about anything nor is it anything really pertinent to anything. So you dont ask for it later because you opted out now: Here is your 2 minutes back. Anyways...

So I was thinking,

I dont want to be honest. I want to lie. I want to tell you that its all good. That I am the best. That my kind are awesome. That I am also the last of my kind. That I am true. Ultimate in my solitude. That I am an island. The only island.

I then will break down and if I am guilty enough I will say that I am unworthy of even my miserable life. That I am miserable. That it all hurts all the time and that the numbness I used to feel was nothing compared to actually feeling again. That I have become the groom of ironic torment. My vows were every word I have said in hate. My wedding band is the stench of my rotting and slowly aging flesh that I am not brave enough to machine away into perfection. That I am too eager to suffer my way. How I am a
masochist for self loathing and an admirer of self aggrandizing.

Then I will jump before I hear that its ok, and how awesome I and all is. I will jump and say that in the end the wisdom I have gained was worth the pain that I paid. I will go on and on about how great and unique this mild mannered persona I have in my mind is. I will talk about this hypothetical awesome man that is somewhere in the mix of all our F ups, our virtues and our intent. I will at that point not be sorry and in fact be happy with the outcome. This I do to open up the conversation for the next step, the fixing it....I FIX...I do. How I feel at this point empowers me to bend life to my will....or so I think.

This has worked for sometime. I am not good at BS-ing. I am serendipitous in my skill of BS-ing. So good that sometimes its all too true...which is the ironic torment from before that I explain away as leading to this great thing that I am only now able to realize, although when I first said it, thought it or just generally shoveled it...I was completely unaware of what I was doing. That is pretty amazing though, so there is that. See I did it again.

When I am all spent and well versed in my BS, I look for respite in the mind of another. I take in some filler to my crap. I take in the filth of our civilization and species...with its bile soaked guile. All progress and achievement I can hope to dream of or entertain as pseudo reality is limited to petty crap that is exactly like mine. My crap is filler to other peoples crap that they think is clever enough to shove down other peoples mental throats. Just like me. People with their precious crap that they try to fill with other peoples crap they see as filler to life.

All this is done to make our crap more important. It seems pretty important to us, so why not try to make others see how important your crap is? Its not like life will be filling for us, no, we must fill IT.

Why not just learn to appreciate other peoples crap- Find your craps worth in the worthiness of other peoples crap?

We are all then just building up physical and emotional crap....the worth we seek is then somewhere else we will go and GOD knows where that train of thought will lead us.

All this then is done to gauge ourselves against anything, against the universe itself. Juxtapose ourselves to the very stars we can barely see. Anything, since if not then what is?

How to be humble?

How when we entertain thoughts of God /The universe so as to become it. We compare ourselves to GOD /The Universe.

We must surrender /never give up. Maybe thats how. I really dont know.

What about being objective and truthful? There is nothing wrong about realizing limitations and working on them.



You are a part of gods creation. Awareness sent out to experience creation. A being who can be pure love given the right parameters. If you test yourself in an easy environment it is easy to be righteous and objective moral. But in a harder environment it is harder.

Like weightlifting. This place can for some souls be very heavy. But the pressure bring forth the diamond.

Namaste (I bow to the divine in you)

Sorry, can't resist the temptation:

I don't mean to be seem like an ass .. but you wrote quite a lot for a simple title.

This would of saved time..

hum·ble
ˈhəmbəl/Submit
adjective
1.
having or showing a modest or low estimate of one's own importance.

"he was humble about his stature as one of rock history's most influential guitarists"

synonyms: meek, deferential, respectful, submissive, diffident, self-effacing, unassertive;

Now people understand what it is to be humble, they can practice it themselves if they sought to

a reply to: Elementalist

Yeah but its not a "how to", is it

BTW, nice vid and song to the other posters...that made it worth it.

Damn, Tada. That was a mouthful. If it helps, I've always liked you. : )
I always read your posts and don't skip them like many, many, many, many others.

If it helps, we all have our private little hells, in one way or another.

If someone else lets you in to see theirs? Try to accept it. If you can, do, if you can't move on.

This always make me laugh about how ridiculous self-loathing and obsessing can be:

First person: How are you today?

Self-loathing and obsessing person: I was fine until I remembered something stupid I said when I was 14.

What humble really means is not putting self above others, ie, everyone counts, and you care about everyone's well being. This stems from positive self worth and self esteem in oneself.

It doesnt mean self abasement as some of those who attempt to code the matrix write in posts, upset that anyone deigns to be a person, and count themselves and others as important. They just want tiny reduced minions serving their Mammoth gods, the elite, while hating themselves and thinking no one is worthy of happiness.

a reply to: tadaman

Well, I just now responded on another thread, and expressed my curiosity at whether you will show the courage and honesty to acknowledge you made a totally irrational, uninformed, offensive post, because your prejudices led you astray for a moment (as happens to all of us at moments). I am guessing not then.


The problem you are dealing with here is in these extreme judgements- things are either crap, or they're heavenly, the "best" or the "worst", good or evil, competition leaves no place for equality and bonding.
Stuck in antithesis, with no hope for synthesis.

Your thought flow including your marriage is appropriate- you keep distance from your feminine side, and probably do so with your external symbol- mate.

Why not consider less harsh judgements on others? All those will just swing back and forth, upon yourself because you are just as human as everyone else. Real honesty isn't moral judgement, it is neutral observation, void of moral judgement.

This kind of thinking you got going here is what causes ups and downs and extreme feelings; of painful depths of humility, to overbearing arrogance.

I think some of this bi-polar value system is encouraged in the US, as part of turning out ferocious consumers.
The concept of mediocrity, or moderation is de-valued to an amazing extent.
Balance is more productive in the long run.

But whatever. You are free to create whatever experience you wish. You just didn't sound so happy with your current choice of thought and being, so I felt compassion. Ignore my verbal input if you wish, and just recognize a fellow human with all kinds of flaws and weaknesses and points of ignorance, holding out a hand. I don't mind being imperfect. But honesty helps me be okay with myself- and others.

a reply to: Bluesma

Bluesma, I like you, but chill the hell out.

Wow.

I was just doing some free writing. Second, in that other thread the OP F-ed up and made an absurd post blaming terrorism in France on the US...and later comented on what I and everyone else was responding to...and retracted it so that subject is done for me. What I responded to and you jumped on me for like a typical ex-pat was retracted....so I owe you nothing.

Have the courage to take your own advice. That entire coment here has nothing to do with my thoughts but is a retarded judgement call on me...from some random ex american in france over the internet that followed me into another thread to pass judgements on me for my post about America elsewhere on this site.

Please chill out.

If you could have left that part out I could have comented on your thoughts here....but now I dont trust the place you are bringing this from...I doubt you are being compassionate as you say.....that would make you not judge me...as you have. My marriage? What the hell was that about?

And just for the record, I am doing fine being me. Life is good. Thanks for the concern...though this is not bi polar sentiment as you say...this is the philosophy forum and these are just thoughts meant to provoke thought.

An honest individual would see themselves and the same process they go through in what I said. You do it too...and thats the point. We all do.

Thank you all for the coments. I think the point of this was missed. Maybe I should have been more forthcoming about what I was doing here. Its simply impossible to chip away the ego and layers of self defence without a disconect. The person this is about is really all of us.

Its not that this is about me or is an issue I am struggling with. This is written about us all. I couldnt believe you if you told me this is not true for you and never was.

We are all flawed. Take it, know it, overcome it.

Have a good one all.
Hold it down.

a reply to: tadaman

I'm chill, but thanks for the concern anyway!
So you really think the things you said about Europe and Europeans was correct and accurate?
Ok. Kinda seemed like it was just a reaction to something someone said, not a serious attempt at being rational.

I am not judging you morally- I offered what was my observation, based upon what you wrote. It seems you judge yourself, and others, rather harshly. I suggested that may be the source of the types of strong feelings you wrote about.
That isn't a moral judgement. I also acknowledged that there is no right and wrong to creating our experiences and choosing our thoughts and feelings.

I am beautifully flawed, just as everyone else is, I know it, and have no plans to overcome it! It is through those flaws that my ego has openings.... which allow others in.

Go ahead and feel strong emotions and judgements, and slap away the clumsy attempts of others to show care. It does nothing to me, everything to you, and that's fine as long as it is fine with you. Ciao!

a reply to: Bluesma

Stop feigning concern and compassion. It doesnt change the fact that you came here to talk about my post in another thread. It doesnt validate what you are trying to do here. Dont think you are so clever that I dont see what you are trying to do. You really feel I owe you some sort of explanation...dont you?

I mean honestly. This is all too neurotic for me.

Please, if your thoughts arent about mine in a philosophical context...then save it. This thread is not about the US or that other thread...its in the philosophy forum...

a reply to: tadaman

I don't feel you owe me anything. I was curious about your thoughts, after what you wrote elsewhere, and I mentioned that this post clarified it better. That's all where that came in. My god your suspicion and perception of the world and others is dark and threatening! I admit it stirs me, because I put myself in your place, and I wouldn't like feeling the way you do -like others are out to get me or get something from me. But I remind myself that my preferences are mine, and yours may be different- obviously.

a reply to: Bluesma

Besides your take on me personally....thanks BTW...I feel important to you.

Anything to say on the thoughts in the OP?

Do you deny that this is even slightly in line with an internal process you may or may have gone through?

Thats interesting to me. That you really dont see yourself in this

a reply to: tadaman

I don't believe we're supposed to chip away at ego. The gnostic concept of "out of egypt" or "out of ego" is basically about not valuing the world so much, not keeping up with your neighbor, ie the "jones" and thinking for yourself, seeing through everything. Not valuing the material or ISMS that impress others so much. Not being afraid to be the fool and speak on real issues or share experiences under the veil. Not seeking popularity or fame or especially power over others. Helping if possible wherever possible. But we're to keep our ego, ourselves, and empowerment or self esteem. We're supposed to.

By the way, "out of egypt" is a natural closing down life cycle that many elderly face, when they lose health and mobility, hair and teeth, its losing vanity in a sense and overturns some of the instilled values they upheld, like survival of the fittest, sickness or ill health is consequence to being sinful or bad, the other guy not you, god helps those who help themselves, the world matters even. This is when it all gets tossed and people become introspective, seeking within, guided within. They let go of the facades and false belief system bit by bit, preparing to cross over.

Another thing that is natural to me, is soul progression, reincarnation, leaving "Oneness" and "Pre-existence", and gradually becoming our infinite selves, in Unity with Loving and Good Family but strengthening individual traits and independence, perhaps over many lifetimes, and this is the way its done, for spirit children to grow up.

Some people want to melt their individualitiy away and are told they need to go back into a cosmic soup type One, and all else is ego. Thats not what growing up and becoming your infinite self is all about, and that would just be returning to the original state, and everything would be pointless.

a reply to: Unity_99

That is an awesome post. Great mind.

I may have chosen my words poorly. I am the sort of person that identified with captain kirk when he refused the help of a delusional vulcan to rid him of his pain. "I need my pain!" he said. lol

Its not about chipping the ego away or even overcoming it. I do agree with you. Its about finding balance with yourself and going from there to everywhere else you need to go. Overcoming in the sense of moving beyond a limitation or boundary.

It is also true what you say about the traits of a freed mind. It is liberating to others in its very nature....though to itself it is only what it is. All it is and does is natural and not valued on any level beyond all. That is what leads us all to follow this hypothetical person or mind in all its incarnations as religions, ideas, cultural values and ideologies, devoted followings or social phenomena of loyalty to spur of the moment transient groups or movements-

The process once identified is only a single sliver in a spiral out into infinity that is our mind and a spiral into an ever more pure and concentrated point of existence that is our spirit.

God stuff

a reply to: tadaman

Yes, balance is the simplest way to explain without having to get into the many paragraph approach, being able to crack the facade of the world and poised to find direction daily and also willing to do different jobs, not just ones that make us feel good, but still never giving up on dreams. I think there are different aspects to being humble of heart, because its a balance between valuing self and not being overly concerned with self or selfish things.

originally posted by: tadaman
How to be humble?

How when we entertain thoughts of God /The universe so as to become it. We compare ourselves to GOD /The Universe.

We must surrender /never give up. Maybe thats how. I really dont know.

I like what you say here.

If we think we can find a technique that will make us humble, that is already not being humble.

Humility is a sign of surrender to the reality that we all arise in, surrender to the reality that is far greater than we are. If we are too busy trying to be humble, we are already full of ourselves, thinking somehow that what is actually given as a free gift by the Divine Reality through real surrender, can be purchased for a price.

a reply to: tadaman


This post along with your avatar remind me of "What about Bob" in a context. Bobs all bombed up and ready for "death therapy" talking about what a great and smart guy the Dr. is.






This next one is apropos. Its all about you but really.....its all about me sort of thing.