RT -Russia ready to repel any nuke strike, retaliate – missile forces command chief

originally posted by: Wookiep

However, the reason I posted this is because I find it somewhat concerning that Russia has been talking so much about nukes again, obviously as a warning to the west, even if they may be stretching the truth.

Have pondered this at length myself. What's with all the rhetoric? Everyone knows Obama isn't going to attack anyone. I heard some military commentator over at Fox refer to him directly as a pansy or a coward. While I wouldn't go that far, it's pretty obvious the guy's not in the war starting business.

Much of Russia's nuclear arsenal is non functioning. How exactly are they able to repel any attack?

US strategic mindset is obsessed with Russia.

Not nearly as much as the Kremlin seems to be obsessed with the US and NATO. RT has it's own section for the US on it's webpage. Nuclear war, NATO and the US are constantly being cursed in the Russian Media on a daily basis, reactions from Russians here are a result of that. At the same time, it's not very often that our mainstream media even mentions Russia unless something big happens over there, like this assasination and the Shootdown of MH17. Ukraine isn't really talked about that much either in the media. Certain low level sites like info-wars (yes we have multiple information sources that are not state run) may love to endulge themselves in this conspiracy theory stuff, but not the big guys. Russia rarely makes the front page over here in the United States.

The public will only support their leader so far. When quality of life, economy and opportunity really start to decline they will be turning on him and factions will start forming in the country. Unfortunately, when this happens a leader usually tales his country to war to force them to unite against a common enemy.

In this case that "enemy" will likely be NATO.

Sad, but likely to be true.

a reply to: Wookiep

Ah! The Russia of old,Stalin's USSR, has arisen...to equal the rank of North Korea.

The assassination last week seals the deal. Could that drastic move had been done to stifle the detractors that recently revealed themselves with the purported plan for the snatching away of portions of Ukraine? A bold move, but you can bet Putin enemies now have legitimate reasons to think twice about their actions and to fear for their hides.

a reply to: Snarl

I dunno, but the rhetoric seems to be getting more and more common. Could the sanctions have something to do with it? That's all Obama will do regarding Ukraine, threaten more sanctions. It seems to me that the only place Obama wants to be involved right now (desperately, almost) with actual airstrikes/troops is Syria. He's been trying to sell that one to us for a while now. Of course that's another proxy front with Russia.

a reply to: Wookiep

I personally think the US can take ISIS out of the picture swiftly and effectively if it would stop dancing around and just do it. Of course we'd have to send troops, but it can be done a lot better and faster than it's being done now.

originally posted by: JonStone
a reply to: Wookiep

I personally think the US can take ISIS out of the picture swiftly and effectively if it would stop dancing around and just do it. Of cource we'd have to send troops, but it can be done a lot better than it's being done now.

True, and it makes my conspiracy senses tingle.. I wonder why all the dancing around. ISIS is just about the only entity pretty much everyone is in agreement the world should be rid of. At least other countries in the ME are finally starting to get involved, which is what has always should have happened, IMO.

originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: Indigent
a reply to: Kapusta

Unlike Russia right?

curiousmatic.com...

I understand you want to Establish a pissing contest ,However i have stated my position and I have read enough facts to believe the US is the Aggressor in this situation . Any Attempt to convince me otherwise will be in Vain.

Wow really so the US sent troops into crimea and annexed it illegally and the US sent troops and weapons into its neighbor in an attempt to take over more. And the US is currently under sanctions by nations because of this?? And you have former Soviet bloc nations sending troops and arms to Ukraine because they fear the US. But obviously facts mean little to you since you blatantly admit nothing can change your mind.

See the US has no intrest in Ukraine nor for that matter Russia. Russia was considered a partner until recently had a post on NATO. Beyond that the US spent billions reviving thw Russian economy. Helped rebuild it's infrastructure helped it build it gas capacities and pipelines. Reality is Putin revived the old Soviet mind set out of necessity. Like all dictators they need a scape goat.

And after having to change the Russian constitution to stay in power he's obviously going to so what ever it takes to stay in charge.

a reply to: Wookiep

I dunno either. Maybe MrSpad will come along and say something enlightening.

1. I just don't see Obama doing anything to elicit nuclear rhetoric from Russia.
2. I also don't see anything or anyone putting fear into Putin (hence, my confusion).

My best guess ... Putin's getting ready to put more effort into constructing that land-bridge to Crimea and all the talk is his version of distraction.

originally posted by: JonStone
a reply to: Baddogma

It's all over Russian Media (Nuclear war), like their preparing or instigating fear or something. I think it's because our current President is too weak to stand up to Putin like previous ones, so Putin took advantage of it.

Normally when you start threatening war or in this case nuclear armageddon, it is usually because the threatening party not getting their way. The only card Putin has to play right now is the rattling of sabers.

originally posted by: KeliOnyx

originally posted by: JonStone
a reply to: Baddogma

It's all over Russian Media (Nuclear war), like their preparing or instigating fear or something. I think it's because our current President is too weak to stand up to Putin like previous ones, so Putin took advantage of it.

Normally when you start threatening war or in this case nuclear armageddon, it is usually because the threatening party not getting their way. The only card Putin has to play right now is the rattling of sabers.

True, NK does it all the time.. I'm not as comfortable when Russia does it though..

a reply to: Rocker2013

I would be concerned with Estonia too.

No way in hell will Kremlin play the same adventure with a NATO country that it is playing in Ukraine. Russia will ignore 10 Estonias for 1 Ukraine.

Ukraine is of extreme strategic importance and Kremlin is doing the needful to keep it in its orbit.

Btw, few years ago Belarus Parliament voted to join Russia as a Union and Moscow rejected that move. Same rejection was given to Serbia's desire to make a Union with Russia.

Hence unless a near abroad country goes totally rogue and wants to join NATO, Russia will play cool as it has been since 1991. Moscow acted in Georgia and Ukraine given their governments wanted to join NATO and threaten Russia's strategic confidence and capabiities.

originally posted by: Kapusta

originally posted by: Indigent
a reply to: Kapusta

Unlike Russia right?

curiousmatic.com...

I understand you want to Establish a pissing contest ,However i have stated my position and I have read enough facts to believe the US is the Aggressor in this situation . Any Attempt to convince me otherwise will be in Vain.

That is the most unintelligent thing I have ever heard.

If your mind is closed to change....then it can't learn new things.

You believing the earth is flat "and any attempt to change my mind will be in vain" is horrible.

There is always new evidence, on all subjects.

So if tomorrow Putin cones out and comes clean it was all his fault, you would still blame the west?

Seems idiotic to me...but to each his own.

originally posted by: Indigent
a reply to: Kapusta

Any Attempt to convince me otherwise will be in Vain.

Of course it will, you just don't like US and don't want to see US and Russia are two bullies in the world and at the end of day they care for themselves and will intervene in any country seeking their interest, non of them is the good guy, the only difference is one is a capitalist place where you can live ok and the other is a dictatorial corruption cesspool.

Russia is a capitalist place where you can live OK?

a reply to: Wookiep

True, and it makes my conspiracy senses tingle.. I wonder why all the dancing around.

Because ISIS is a nice little smokescreen to cover certain failures. A smokescreen that can be cleaned up quite easy if and when the time comes to do so.

a reply to: KeliOnyx

Normally when you start threatening war or in this case nuclear armageddon, it is usually because the threatening party not getting their way. The only card Putin has to play right now is the rattling of sabers.

Probably so, Putin knows he'd lose a conventional war against the US, let alone NATO.

originally posted by: DJMSN
a reply to: Wookiep

I think they sound a bit desperate. Kind of like another country we all know and love...North Korea. Its really our fault because we allowed terrorism to shape our internal policies as well as our personal lives. Our politicians have reacted to terror in exactly the way that terrorist want...running scared.

They created a new department (DHS) more powerful than any other and have poured billions into it. We shake and shiver on our evening news cast when a video shows terrorist in action and we are not even allowed to carry a bottler of shampoo on an aircraft. We blinked and the whole world knows it.

So...why not mention nuclear war every opportunity you have...why not threaten and raise the rhetoric...it works apparently...especially when you have an administration ready to capitulate to everyone under the sun. I think we should not play into it...don't give terrorist or the Russian government any news coverage...they both feed off of it as much as our silly politicians and they're five minute soundbites.

Simple saber rattling from the Russian government who no more has an interest in nuclear war than anyone else on this planet so I will simply ignore the propaganda which is really aimed at the citizens of both countries...designed to frighten Americans into compelling Congress to capitulate to every demand and stop sanctions and to bolster Russian citizens belief that the Russian is actually strong and standing up to the big bad west when in reality neither side is anything other a big bloated bags of hot air playing both its citizens

Finally, an intelligent response.

I thought this place denied ignorance?

Seems only a couple in this thread do.

originally posted by: JonStone

US strategic mindset is obsessed with Russia.

Not nearly as much as the Kremlin seems to be obsessed with the US and NATO. RT has it's own section for the US on it's webpage. Nuclear war, NATO and the US are constantly being cursed in the Russian Media on a daily basis, reactions from Russians here are a result of that. At the same time, it's not very often that our mainstream media even mentions Russia unless something big happens over there, like this assasination and the Shootdown of MH17. Ukraine isn't really talked about that much either in the media. Certain low level sites like info-wars (yes we have multiple information sources that are not state run) may love to endulge themselves in this conspiracy theory stuff, but not the big guys. Russia rarely makes the front page over here in the United States.

The public will only support their leader so far. When quality of life, economy and opportunity really start to decline they will be turning on him and factions will start forming in the country. Unfortunately, when this happens a leader usually tales his country to war to force them to unite against a common enemy.

In this case that "enemy" will likely be NATO.

Sad, but likely to be true.

Because nobody in the west even cares about russia.

If they stopped attacking the former USSR states, we would likely never think of them again.

This might be slightly off topic, but hey, look at this

originally posted by: JonStone
a reply to: KeliOnyx

Normally when you start threatening war or in this case nuclear armageddon, it is usually because the threatening party not getting their way. The only card Putin has to play right now is the rattling of sabers.

Probably so, Putin knows he'd lose a conventional war against the US, let alone NATO.

And lose it badly.

Just the US with nothing but F-15 and F-16s would destroy his airforce.

This doesn't even include drones stealths bombers electronic warfare birds or helicopters.

Russia has a lot if ground equipment, but the US Germany France England all have much better tanks APCs, and now have the trophies systems......

Even in a ground war russia would get spanked, as the sorry Tseries tanks are murdered hundreds to one.

The new T-90 is supposed to be good, but that is yet to be seen, and they are in very short supply.