The Dangerous and Destructive Mythology of American Exceptionalism

If you feel the need to post something negative because somebody said something positive about the USA... Your bashing the USA.

For those that point to the wars the us has been in as proof how horrible we are. How come you alway take such a small snap shot of history as proof.

We haven't even come close to the body counts of Russia, France, England, once you open that window fully.

Bottom line... While you point out the flaws in America I will wager those same flaws are reflected in your country.

originally posted by: infinityorder

National pride is really all we have left st this point.

With all due respect I would say that "National Pride" is also the reason America has fallen so far from her heyday. Until Americans get to the point of admitting to themselves that there is a massive problem in America and only Americans can fix it then the problem will persist and keep getting worse. "National pride" is preventing Americans from seeing the bad that America is doing now, not only to itself but also to the world.

originally posted by: MimiSia
a reply to: Kryties

oh I meant what side of Australia ur on

Ahah lol, im in the Blue Mountains NSW.

a reply to: infinityorder

aww well that is very nice what you said you should be proud at yourself not just ur nation you sound like a normal guy finally not a shallow lil prickle

originally posted by: Irishhaf
If you feel the need to post something negative because somebody said something positive about the USA... Your bashing the USA.

For those that point to the wars the us has been in as proof how horrible we are. How come you alway take such a small snap shot of history as proof.

We haven't even come close to the body counts of Russia, France, England, once you open that window fully.

Bottom line... While you point out the flaws in America I will wager those same flaws are reflected in your country.

America doesn't even come close honestly!!!

Thanks for your words!!!

a reply to: Irishhaf

go for it

we already have a big cock comment

I am from Czech originally so pls continue I would love to hear some stuff

a reply to: Kryties

can u pls delete our side talk thank u
I am wa

originally posted by: Irishhaf
If you feel the need to post something negative because somebody said something positive about the USA... Your bashing the USA.

For those that point to the wars the us has been in as proof how horrible we are. How come you alway take such a small snap shot of history as proof.

We haven't even come close to the body counts of Russia, France, England, once you open that window fully.

Bottom line... While you point out the flaws in America I will wager those same flaws are reflected in your country.

Thats the thing.

I acknowlge the # things in my countrys history.


Many americans dont even know about the dirty laundry in there history.

a reply to: crazyewok

Many of us do... And just because our govt has done bad things shouldn't prevent us from having pride in the good we have done.

China built a giant wall around their country for what reason?

a reply to: Harvin

the c(sh)ity wall ? so the ET can see it from space? WHY NOT eih? are there any Asian citizen on ats?

originally posted by: Harvin
China built a giant wall around their country for what reason?

To keep out the invading Mongols.

Does America have an invading army of Mongols battering down it's door now?

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: mister.old.school

I absolutely hate that term. There isn't a more pompous, arrogant, egocentric or just plain conceited term possible for anyone could use. The fact that it's also not true is an embarrassment. Neocons love using it too and it makes me sick when I hear it. It's like some people have never heard of the word humility or humbleness.

American Exceptionalism = Patriotic Masturbation

It does remind me of Deutschland, Deutschland uber alles. Constant nationalism to blind the public of the flaws and not deal with the problems. Emotional manipulation to make you join the corrupt politicians in their schemes.

en.wikipedia.org...
You're either with us, or against us. When you cannot logically make a point, use emotion of being a team and use simplification of a pro/against to get what you want.

Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, in a speech discussing the Chief Committee for Political Education, told the assembled delegates that "It is with absolute frankness that we speak of this struggle of the proletariat; each man must choose between joining our side or the other side. Any attempt to avoid taking sides in this issue must end in fiasco.

George Orwell wrote in his 1942 essay "Pacifism and the War", "If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, ‘he that is not with me is against me’. The idea that you can somehow remain aloof from and superior to the struggle, while living on food which British sailors have to risk their lives to bring you, is a bourgeois illusion bred of money and security."

Benito Mussolini declared in speeches across fascist Italy: "O con noi o contro di noi"—You're either with us or against us.[citation needed]

János Kádár, in an effort to unite Hungary after the Hungarian Revolution of 1956, announced in December 1961, "those who are not against us are with us."

Hillary Clinton said on September 13, 2001: "Every nation has to either be with us, or against us. Those who harbor terrorists, or who finance them, are going to pay a price."

President George W. Bush, in an address to a joint session of Congress on September 20, 2001 said, "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

Vic Toews Canadian Public Safety Minister said on February 13, 2012: ".. either stand with us or with the child pornographers" in response to questions from Quebec MP Francis Scarpaleggia (Lac-Saint-Louis) regarding extensive Privacy Commission concerns about 'warrant-less access' to all Canadian Internet and Cell phone accounts under the proposed legislation contained in bill C-30 "Protecting Children from Internet Predators Act" introduced the following day (February 14, 2012) in the House of Commons of Canada.

a reply to: LittleByLittle
nice work... very informative..
I also feel like the media is telling the us people a lot about external threats that are simply make believe.. I don't know

a reply to: Kryties

in my language we use the term now as Mongols = idiots

originally posted by: MimiSia
a reply to: Kryties

in my language we use the term now as Mongols = idiots

where im from Omongrel = biggest idiot

Look how American history is taught in schools. All rainbows and sunshine. Any embarrassing things (like what we did to the Native Americans) are glossed over.

a reply to: miomo

i don't know where u from but I searched omongrel and a lot of articles on Obama come up