Obama Doesn't Love America

So Rudolph Giuliani has made a statement so eloquent and simple that it almost brings tears to your eyes. He said that "I do not believe that the president loves America". Talk about summing it up in a nutshell. Giuliani is 100% correct...Obama doesn't love America and I would even argue that he doesn't like it, and probably hates it.

When you love something...you don't seek to change it. At least not "fundamentally change it" as Obama stated that he wanted to do. Sure, there may be a few things here and there you would touch up, but not change it to the point that it isn't the same place. Not if you love something.

So now Giuliani is getting grief from everyone. Of course, they are even using their "racist" weapon which continues to make no sense. But what does ATS think??? Does Obama love America and if you think so, then why does he wish to fundamentally change something he loves?

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

How can we argue any of them love America, when all they do is promote division while serving the Banks and Corporations?

Believing that Obama is the sole destroyer of our Republic is as an Amish Horse pulling a buggy down the road with blinders to prevent the cars from scaring it.

I'll give you this though, he is easy to hate!

originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

How can we argue any of them love America, when all they do is promote division while serving the Banks and Corporations?

Believing that Obama is the sole destroyer of our Republic is as an Amish Horse pulling a buggy down the road with blinders to prevent the cars from scaring it.

I'll give you this though, he is easy to hate!

Oh...I don't think he is the only one. There are too many, if not all of them. But he is the one ultimately responsible for keeping everything in check. He took an oath to defend the Constitution and of solving problems...he is creating them.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Obama is in love with himself. Anything else is secondary.

But what do you think. Doesn't that sum it up perfectly that "Obama doesn't love America"? It just kinda says it all in four words. Words that can be defended, backed up and even made the Obama-defenders pull out the racist-bomb within hours...which means they fear the combination of the statement and the source. It is a slogan...a bumper sticker. Hell...I may just open a website selling nothing but "Obama Doesn't Love America" products it is so perfect.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Even Rudy said it was a horrible thing to say, and I agree with him on that. Rudy doesn't know spit about how Obama feels. For anyone to sit back and judge how Obama feels about America... it's just the stupidest thing I can think of...

“I do not believe, and I know this is a horrible thing to say, but I do not believe that the president loves America,” Giuliani said during the dinner at the 21 Club, a former Prohibition-era speakeasy in midtown Manhattan. “He doesn’t love you. And he doesn’t love me. He wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up through love of this country.”

Read more: www.politico.com...

It's low and lame, IMO.

What does Rudy know about love, anyway?

Rudy Giuliani knows a lot about love.

Ask Regina Peruggi, the second cousin he grew up with and married, who was "offended" when Rudy later engineered an annulment from the priest who was his best man on the grounds, strangely enough, that she was his cousin. Or ask Donna Hanover, the mother of his two children, who found out he wanted a separation when he left Gracie Mansion one morning and announced it at a televised press conference.

Or ask Judi Nathan, his third wife, whom he started dating while still married to Hanover and New York mayor. In two SUVs, he and an entourage of six or seven cops traveled 11 times to Judi's Hamptons getaway at a taxpayer cost of $3,000 a trip. That's love.

Rudy knows so much about love that he declared the other day that President Obama "doesn't love you" and "doesn't love me" at a private party of GOP fat cats.

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Allow me to parrot what I have always told people since prior 9/11...

Dear America:

YOUR COUNTRY HAS BEEN HIJACKED BY A ROGUE FACTION WITHIN YOUR GOVERNMENT, THOSE "LEADING" AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE NOT WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE THEY ARE IMPOSTERS AND ROGUES.

Sorry for text yelling, it's OBVIOUS American government has been hijacked; 9/11 was allowed to happen (like pearl harbor), police now do not protect and serve - they demand and assault, your Healthcare now benefits the rogue government more then ever, your constitution is being broken subtly, and laws have already been changed to benefit this rogue faction.

It's obvious, and you will NOT get anyone in yhe mainstream to admit or touch the rogue subject t, in fear of assassination or unknown caused death...

American PEOPLE, please, for the love of your nation, each other and humanity - come together and end this rogue government from starting WW3 and changing your constitution to the point freedom is not written in future dictionaries.

Why does deception work? Because you don't realize it's happeninG until it's too late (subtle changes)

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

So this is a random Obama hate thread? Are we all supposed to just level a bunch of unsubstantiated complaints against him all because some other politician told us that Obama doesn't love us. Question, why do you trust another politician (Guiliani) over another politician (Obama)? Is it perhaps because he said something you agree with?

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Even Rudy said it was a horrible thing to say, and I agree with him on that. Rudy doesn't know spit about how Obama feels. For anyone to sit back and judge how Obama feels about America... it's just the stupidest thing I can think of...

“I do not believe, and I know this is a horrible thing to say, but I do not believe that the president loves America,” Giuliani said during the dinner at the 21 Club, a former Prohibition-era speakeasy in midtown Manhattan. “He doesn’t love you. And he doesn’t love me. He wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up through love of this country.”

Read more: www.politico.com...

It's low and lame, IMO.

What does Rudy know about love, anyway?

Rudy Giuliani knows a lot about love.

Ask Regina Peruggi, the second cousin he grew up with and married, who was "offended" when Rudy later engineered an annulment from the priest who was his best man on the grounds, strangely enough, that she was his cousin. Or ask Donna Hanover, the mother of his two children, who found out he wanted a separation when he left Gracie Mansion one morning and announced it at a televised press conference.

Or ask Judi Nathan, his third wife, whom he started dating while still married to Hanover and New York mayor. In two SUVs, he and an entourage of six or seven cops traveled 11 times to Judi's Hamptons getaway at a taxpayer cost of $3,000 a trip. That's love.

Rudy knows so much about love that he declared the other day that President Obama "doesn't love you" and "doesn't love me" at a private party of GOP fat cats.

Source

I find it quite easy to tell if someone loves something. You can see it in their actions, in their eyes. When you watch them in awe of something they love instead of looking like they want to spit upon it. When they embrace it's history and future instead of apologize for it's past and try to change everything about it's future. But like some misguided girl who marries a man with the goal of changing him...apparently Obama forgot that it really doesn't matter what he wants to do. Because there are those of us who truly do love America and what it stands for.

So yes...anyone can see through his actions and words that Obama does not love America.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

"Eloquent and simple."

How about pointless and stupid? Don't you recognize identity politics when you see it? What does Rudy Giuliani know about how Barack Obama was raised? Nothing, he's blatantly pandering to people with birther sentiments.

I don't agree with a lot of things Obama says and does and I agreed with less that Bush said and did before him but I never thought to say, "George Bush HATES AMERICA." Nobody questioned whether GWB loved America because nobody was busily trying to paint him as a secret Kenyan and Muslim Brotherhood Manchurian Candidate.

Here's what Marco Rubio had to say:

"I’ll suffice it to say that I believe the President loves America; I think his ideas are bad."

Isn't Rudy Giuliani done capitalizing on the fact that he happened to be the mayor of NYC on 9/11 yet?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

So this is a random Obama hate thread? Are we all supposed to just level a bunch of unsubstantiated complaints against him all because some other politician told us that Obama doesn't love us. Question, why do you trust another politician (Guiliani) over another politician (Obama)? Is it perhaps because he said something you agree with?

Nope...not a hate thread nor a trust for any politician. It almost sounds like you didn't read my words. It really doesn't matter who said it...the words were "Obama doesn't love America" and I think that really just sums it up. My question, and the purpose of this non-hate thread is to get the opinions of others on the statement itself and their opinions.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Yea he's only expanded gay rights further than any other president before him. He TRIED to overhaul the health care system (unfortunately it was unsuccessful). He has allowed states rights to allow marijuana. The unemployment rate has only been dropping since he's been in office. Overall he has tried to do tons to help out America. Just because you don't like his policies doesn't mean he doesn't love America. Your partisan bias is strong.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

For anyone to sit back and judge how Obama feels about America... it's just the stupidest thing I can think of...

Well if he loves this country, he sure as hell has a horrible way of showing it! He loves us so much he saddled us all with more debt in the form of ACA tax or paying for insurance you may not need. Oh I can definitely feel the love!

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Well you haven't exactly provided any evidence of said hate outside of some other politician's opinion of him. So your opinion is pretty unsubstantiated.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

"Eloquent and simple."

How about pointless and stupid? Don't you recognize identity politics when you see it? What does Rudy Giuliani know about how Barack Obama was raised? Nothing, he's blatantly pandering to people with birther sentiments.

I don't agree with a lot of things Obama says and does and I agreed with less that Bush said and did before him but I never thought to say, "George Bush HATES AMERICA." Nobody questioned whether GWB loved America because nobody was busily trying to paint him as a secret Kenyan and Muslim Brotherhood Manchurian Candidate.

Here's what Marco Rubio had to say:

"I’ll suffice it to say that I believe the President loves America; I think his ideas are bad."

Isn't Rudy Giuliani done capitalizing on the fact that he happened to be the mayor of NYC on 9/11 yet?

While I'm sure we will never agree...I'll support "George Bush f'ed Up" if you support "Obama doesn't love America" By the way...Bush hasn't been president in six years I believe. Obama has been.

a reply to: SpaDe_

What did the previous guys, not just the prior admin but any of them, to show that they love us?

They all love dead presidents.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

But he was president, we don't just get to ignore that he was in charge of our country and did the same stuff that barry is doing.
Just like when the next guy comes in, we will be hearing how he is cleaning up barry's mess or how much better he was then barry ect.

We compare presidents to other presidents, as they are the only ones we can use for comparison.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Well you haven't exactly provided any evidence of said hate outside of some other politician's opinion of him. So your opinion is pretty unsubstantiated.

Oh...I'm sorry. I didn't mean to imply that this is about changing anyone's opinion or proving anything. I just feel for me, and I'm sure others...this is a simple and eloquent summary. You see, when someone asks why I dislike Obama, that conversation can take hours to complete. Not that I've ever invested that much effort in such a conversation. But this statement is (IMHO) the perfect response. You can say it and be done with it. You can answer "why" easily and...unless the person asking is extremely out-there, the racist attack doesn't make any sense.

Rush Limbaugh has analyzing Obama for seven years consistently 99.99% (his accuracy rating).
He said today the is not any intellectual substance with him at all, nor will he ever be a true intellectual.

With all the recent speeches from Obama on foreign policy etc., Rush has been exposing his lack of intellect...a con man only.

Limbaugh Therom
The Limbaugh Theorum has been proven accurate 100s of times and is essential to understanding Obama and press lap dogs...especially trolls.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

I'm not asking you to explain why you don't like the man. I'm asking you to explain why you think Obama hates the country. There have to be clear and significant examples that demonstrate that Obama doesn't like the country and has tried to destroy it. Me I don't see it. I just see another man trying to do an impossibly tough job.