"Spy agencies fund climate research in hunt for weather weapon, scientist fears"

originally posted by: waynos
a reply to: DanielJacksonKree

How does one steer a hurricane?

You'll have to ask HAARP boys and perhaps all those guys in black ops

originally posted by: DanielJacksonKree

originally posted by: waynos
a reply to: DanielJacksonKree

How does one steer a hurricane?

You'll have to ask HAARP boys and perhaps all those guys in black ops

Aircraft fly above the weather at about 30,000ft, which is around 6 miles. From what I've read HAARP was a communication project operated at 40+ to 200+ miles altitude in the ionosphere, and is now closed anyway.

How does this link to weather at all? I don't think this even connects with the OP, does it?

a reply to: kosmicjack

Thanks for bringing this article to ATS. S&F

Another piece of the puzzle that fits perfectly into the story line so far. This is an important precedent, not because Mr. Robock has blown the whistle, but because he's finally being allowed to speak out about it.

These Geoengineering projects have always been steered by a slow leak of information followed by the public backlash. To me it appears TPTB have been trying to gauge the public's reaction to these proposals all along. Clearly there is a large amount of negative attention every time some scientist wants to play God and tinker with our environments natural processes.

Alan Robock is a key player in the Geoengineering discussions taking place around the World. His name is referenced in almost all the major reports. He's co-authored papers on the Mt Pinatubo studies. So the source could not be any more credible or qualified.

He's also not the first Geoengineering scientist to mention weaponized weather. Ken Caldiera has also talked about it.




Conveniently, climate scientists are being quite ambiguous about the ability to collect accurate data. On one hand they say they have made great strides in being able to detect changes in the Earth's albedo using remote sensing satellites.

Recent Advances in Measuring Cloud Albedo with Satellites


Then on the other hand they say that the natural variances are too great to detect small scale albedo modification experiments.

Natural variability in Earth’s reflectiveness would limit our ability to detect effects of climate engineering



And how do like this ...

“MECHANICS” OF SRM RESEACH GOVERNANCE

2. DECISION-MAKING FOR SRM RESEARCH PROJECTS

Scope and Requirements:
The core of any governance system for SRM research will be the process of making decisions whether or not, or under what conditions and with what restrictions, proposed activities may proceed. No such system now exists, and in its absence any nation may conduct SRM – even at large scale, over its own territory, over others‟ with permission, or at sea – so long as there is no territorial violation or hostile intent. As a practical matter, such activity would no doubt attract immediate pressure from other nations to desist, but no existing international law prohibits or regulates it.

4. TRANSPARENCY IN SRM RESEARCH AND GOVERNANCE

The general presumption in public decision-making is maximal transparency – to support informed decisions, and to guard against incompetence, corruption, or capture of decision making processes. This general presumption applies to SRM, with the high stakes and novelty of the issues conferring even greater than normal need for transparency in several ways.

First, effective assessment and decision-making on research project proposals requires access to all relevant information. For projects of such scale as to require international assessment and approval, there must be full disclosure to the decision process of technical details about the proposed activity and methods; scientific information relevant to assessing resultant risk, including results from similar past activities; prompt access to ongoing data and results once projects are underway; and possibly (as discussed below), information on the identity of project participants, sources of finance, and relevant intellectual property and its owners.

In addition, given widespread suspicion of SRM from many citizens and organizations, building legitimacy of SRM research governance is likely to require broad dissemination of information about what is done, how decisions are made, and what results are observed. This must be made widely available, to national governments, participants in whatever consultative or deliberative processes have been established, and the interested public. In the first instance, the presumption should be that as much as possible of the information generated through project proposals, assessment and approval, implementation, and subsequent monitoring and evaluation, should be subject to such broader distribution – both in raw form and with summaries and syntheses, to allay suspicions that the system is being rigged or risks are being concealed.

There are, however, certain compelling reasons that can over-ride this general presumption for transparency and justify limiting availability of information in specific instances.

These can include:

- Protecting confidential information belonging to individuals or of competitive significance between enterprises or researchers.

- The cost and administrative burden of providing information (This may be particularly significant for small or standardized projects);

- Safety, security, and management of international conflict

So, again, on one hand they state the need for transparency while also stating they need to protect certain information.

Climate change has already been deemed a matter of national security. This allows for covert funding of R&D.

IMHO, covert Geoengineering studies are taking place.

a reply to: DanielJacksonKree

You'll have to ask HAARP boys and perhaps all those guys in black ops

Would be a good idea, but the fact that it is closed down makes it difficult to do what you think it can do.