"50 Shades of Grey" and it's Effects on Women.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Favorite bloodhound quote. I can't be tied down with a girl that wants me tied up (lmao). What you said is true. Its all personal and no ones business however I do see reality t.v as a marker of a decaying society. And 50 shades may fit in this place as well I don't know because I haven't read the book seen the movie. Just know its a bdsm movie.

a reply to: ghostrager

I felt it would be the best indicator of how the moral fabric is decaying at an incredible increasing rate in society.

Moral fabric of society? You do realize that societies can not have morals; morals are a personal standards of behavior or beliefs concerning what is and is not acceptable for them to do.

My morals have no bearing on yours and your morals have no bearing on mine.

Employees find used condoms, handcuffs, and sex toys found in theaters after showings.

Ask anyone who cleans movie theaters between showings. These type of incidents occur all the time regardless of the rating or content of the movie being shown.

I won't sit here and tell you that you need to drop the righteousness, relax, loosen up and embrace all of life's joys; however, that road goes both ways. How about you worry about you and yours and let each one of us worry about us and ours.

Sorry to post and run everyone. I'll try to reply later when I've got time.

a reply to: ghostrager

I agree with you there. He's aggressive behaviour and the way he takes advantage of a naive younger girl is abuse. Even people who are into BDSM are disgusted with the movie and the portrayal if you read around.
People are trying to argue that she's OK with it, but it's pretty clear she's not and just tries to convince herself she is.
It's just trivialising domestic abuse, mental more than physical actually.

"How could you be so stupid?" Grey demands of Steele.

"I can't do this," Steele says. "Oh Ana, don't overthink this," said Grey.

When she threatens to leave, he threatens her.

"I would find you. I can track your cell phone, remember?" said Grey.

"He'd probably like to beat seven shades of *&%$ out of me," Steele thinks. "The thought is depressing."

Grey: "I wondered what your bedroom would look like," he says. I glance around it, plotting an escape route, no - there's still only the door or window."

Steele: "Well, I thought I should come and remind you how nice it was knowing me." Holy crap. I stare at him open mouthed, and his fingers move from my ear to my chin. "What do you say to that, Miss Steele?" [...she says nothing...] I take pre-emptive action and launch myself at him. Somehow he moves, I have no idea how, and in the blink of an eye I'm on the bed pinned beneath him, my arms stretched out and held above my head, his free hand clutching my face, and his mouth finds mine."

Next, Steele says no.

Steele: He bends and starts undoing one of my sneakers. Oh no... no... my feet. No. I've just been running. "No," I protest, trying to kick him off. He stops. "If you struggle, I'll tie your feet too. If you make a noise, Anastasia, I will gag you."

Grey: He bends and starts undoing one of my sneakers. Oh no... no... my feet. No. I've just been running. "No," I protest, trying to kick him off. He stops. "If you struggle, I'll tie your feet too. If you make a noise, Anastasia, I will gag you."

Afterward when he leaves, she says this: "But now I feel like a receptacle - an empty vessel to be filled at his whim. [...] I have an overwhelming urge to cry, a sad and lonely melancholy grips and tightens round my heart. Dashing back to my bedroom, I close the door and lean against it trying to rationalize my feelings. I can't. Sliding to the floor, I put my head in my hands as my tears begin to flow."

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I'm sorry but anyone that thinks this filth is romantic, or that it's no problem that people are becoming desensitised to this stuff needs their head examined.

It's hardly a surprise, considering in the UK at least how many TV personalities and other famous people are being locked up or investigated for rape and/or pedophilia it's no wonder the media wants people to think it's OK and normal.

a reply to: LeatherNLace

Morals no mores they do indeed and we push these mores on everyone. Sociology

a reply to: ghostrager

Seek power, not authority.

Seeking authority over people, particularly their morality, is more dangerous and perverse than any fiction could be.

If you think your ideas/values are superior to "theirs", isn't that enough for you?

a reply to: AgentSmith

You have no idea how many women have rape/sub fantasies. To explore those fantasies in a book is much safer, in my opinion.

I read a funny quote, can't remember where, but something to the effect that if it took place in a trailer park instead of a multi-million dollar highrise - it would be getting criticized much more vocally as being abusive to women. Like somehow the fact that he is rich and bribes her with a lifestyle negates the degradation she is subjected to.

Hang on just a second,

Women are masturbating during this movie as it is being shown.....

I will be back in a few hours am off to my local movie theatre.

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: ~Lucidity

Favorite bloodhound quote. I can't be tied down with a girl that wants me tied up (lmao). What you said is true. Its all personal and no ones business however I do see reality t.v as a marker of a decaying society. And 50 shades may fit in this place as well I don't know because I haven't read the book seen the movie. Just know its a bdsm movie.

So, in your estimation, reality TV is a sign decaying society? A departure from the normalcy of Mork and Mindy and Welcome Back Kotter? Interesting take.

How about the massive amount of degenerate war/gun/cop porn on US TV? Try not watching any show with guns and shooting or cops and see how big your selection is.

a reply to: ghostrager

He obviously didn't read the OP. Trollers will troll.

a reply to: ghostrager

Building a huge rant about something you haven't even seen or read is pretty stupid.

a reply to: InverseLookingGlass

Oh come on! We are going way off topic but whatever. Yes reality t.v over sexualizes society(namely children who's parents allow to watch it) it also portrays life in an unrealistic way yet sold under the guise of reality. I don't want nothing cencored by big brother but the demand for such a premise truly speaks miles about our everyday character.

Confession: I have not read the book. I have not seen the movie.

However, after being inundated about this "Valentine" movie on TV 'programming' while I was looking for weather updates, I became curious and read extensive reviews about the book and movie. One book reviewer took it chapter by chapter, with quotes from the book. It is widely reported that the author was given unusual control over casting, script & filming; and was on set EVERY day, pushing the envelope of the "R" rating. Ok, whatever...

I'll go find the link to the chapter-by-chapter analysis if anyone is interested. But it clearly makes the case that this is a book about stalking, kidnapping, breaking & entering, cycle of abuse, rape/dubious consent (he tells her he got her drunk, while abstaining himself, so she would lose her resolve.)

All that aside, the many excerpts I read show the book has less literary prowess than a cheap Harlequin romance-- actually, that's an insult to those God-forsaken books of old, haha.

To each his/her own, sure. But I find all the hullabaloo bewildering. It left me wondering-- is this who we are as a society? Really???

For comic relief, I leave you this book review: FSOG Book Review with a *language warning* Also, she goes on to review the other two in the trilogy, because gosh-darn... they're slated for the big screen next! *puke* NOT gonna see any of them!

Edit to Add: It would have made a helluva lot more sense to me if this had been touted as a Halloween flick instead of a Valentine flick! (NOT romantic... creepy and unnerving, if you ask me.)

a reply to: ghostrager

funny when i was young and just had sex with random girls no emotion envolved i was just a man whore and women loved to tell me so what the hell is this guy in the movie the hero for gods sake people .
And if a women acted that way she would get the scarlet letter

Not only have there been more than a few women complaining that their husbands or boyfriends weren't down with them reading the book, but it has also led to violence in some cases.

In the summer of 2012, a British man was arrested for assault after he thought the best way to stop his girlfriend from reading Fifty Shades of Grey, was to smack her, then spray her with an "unidentified" brown sauce. Yikes.

OMG not brown sauce!

9 WTF Side Effects From The 'Fifty Shades Of Grey' Phenomenon

Weren't all these the same side effects as Viagra had?

a reply to: new_here

I'm not so sure about this analysis. She had the choice to quit at every step of the way.

Confession: I did finish reading book one after I put it down for three months after hitting the word virgin. But only to participate in conversations about it and because I needed to know if it ever went anywhere interesting and . It didn't. Never read the other two.

originally posted by: sweets777
a reply to: ghostrager

funny when i was young and just had sex with random girls no emotion envolved i was just a man whore and women loved to tell me so what the hell is this guy in the movie the hero for gods sake people .
And if a women acted that way she would get the scarlet letter

It's a movie. About a book.

If Starfleet really sent Kirk to rescue some whales, well by God greenpeace would've been protesting the whales' kidnapping like crazy!

My wife calls it mommy porn.

a reply to: Hoosierdaddy71

Hahaha that's freaking great. Lol

I read all three books...as did my husband * shocker there?. We discussed the books as we read and how we felt about each scene, whether it was an anger scene or a sex one. To be truthful after reading all three books...we found it all quite ridiculous and completely unrealistic. Certainly didn't make us want to rush out and see the movie, and I have no plans to ever see it , nor the sequels that are in the works. I agree that women have been hiding this side of their sexuality through romance novels for decades, and only now that it's out in the open for all to see does it bring out those with the loud voices of protest because it makes them uncomfortable due to not being able to keep it behind closed doors anymore. Biggest thing is that if you do have fantasies like this, best to discuss it with your significant other instead of going to a theater with your giggly girlfriends.