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originally posted by: Realtruth
a reply to: theNLBS
Israel banned fluoride, in tap water, and we all know they are extremely slow over there. (Rolls eyes)
www.jpost.com...
But hey we all know the USA is a free country, and we are founded on everyone's individual rights and choices, so putting fluoride in water is not an infringement of freedoms? (Rolls eyes again)
Oh wait I think I'll forego the municipal water and save rain water. Oh wait that is illegal in many states to now. smh
originally posted by: Metallicus
This is a freedom of choice issue.
Regardless of your stance on water fluoridation, we should have the opportunity to decide what we take into our bodies. It is like telling a vegetarian they must eat meat. Sure it isn't going to hurt them, but they should have the right to choose what they put in their body.
More than 30 yr of research has clearly established sodium fluoride as the most potent agent currently available for increasing spinal bone mass.
However, the data are largely anecdotal. Putting all this together, we feel that there may be an important role for NaF in osteoporosis treatment but, for now, its use should be restricted to properly conducted controlled clinical trials.
originally posted by: theNLBS
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
The Slow release sodium flouride works better
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
How safe is fluoridated water?
The graph above is quite conclusive with respect to the efficiency of fluoridation in my opinion, but I'm not about to deny every bit of research that suggests fluoride can help prevent tooth decay; consumed in the right amounts it probably can help to some small degree... but you see, everyone consumes a different amount of tap water. There is no way to control the 'dose' of any single individual. The Government has essentially taken it upon themselves to medicate a whole population, regardless of those who don't want to receive such a medication.
Now you might think that the Government is wise, and is only doing what it thinks will benefit all of society, but there are several problems with their so called mass-medication scheme. First of all, the method of 'treatment' is completely absurd. Fluoride is intended to be applied to the surface of your teeth - it does not work by ingesting the tap water. There is absolutely no reason you would want to ingest a toxic waste material. Using fluoridated toothpaste (which typically contains high grade pharmaceutical fluoride and not toxic waste) is a much more logical and sane option.
Secondly, about 95% of all your tap water goes down the drain and therefore makes its way into natural water systems and does damage to the environment and the creatures living in that environment. In fact, the reason they stopped releasing the fluoride gases into the environment straight out of their smoke stacks was because it devastated the natural life living around the industrial plant producing the pollution. Now that toxic waste is instead captured and dripped directly into your water supply without any type of refinement or cleansing.
There are many differing opinions when it comes to this subject, and a lot of the studies done tend to contradict each other (a typically sign of propaganda and agenda pushing), but I think the following video really sums up what the vast majority of real experts have to say about the inherent health risks involved.
Professional Perspectives on Water Fluoridation
Is it really worth the risk?
Do you really believe all of this is done just to prevent tooth decay? Do you actually think all the potential health risks are worth this one debatable advantage? It's fairly obvious in my opinion, that no citizen should have to be subjected to non-consensual medication. Just because a vitamin pill might be good for my health, doesn't mean anyone can force me to take a vitamin pill. It is my choice and I should have that freedom to choose.
originally posted by: GBP/JPY
Oh dang...I only got 4 sentences into the op......I identified the severe lack of logic in the statement about the good of drinking treated water to get some of it on your teeth on it's way down the gulllet. let's start it....here in Texas we refuse to be unencumbered by the thought process....... that's the method of delivery for the remedy....what about the metering......at the water plant. see my previous posts from a year ago about what my water inspector friend told me....and our visit to work on the filters at a municipal supply plant. I'll stop there for now, I could fill volumes bud....
originally posted by: superman2012
It's so free that you can go ahead and dig your own well with the proper paperwork and build your own reverse osmosis water treatment plant to get rid of any fluoride that might be in the groundwater. Fluoride isn't an infringement of rights anymore then adding sodium hydroxide to raise the pH is.
You do know that it isn't illegal to catch and save rain water right?
originally posted by: theNLBS
The Slow release sodium flouride works better
First comment was a drive-by BS spray... Looks frightening, sodium fluoride must be terrible.
Sodium fluoride therapy of postmenopausal osteoporosis.
More than 30 yr of research has clearly established sodium fluoride as the most potent agent currently available for increasing spinal bone mass.
Treatment of postmenopausal osteoporosis with slow-release sodium fluoride. Final report of a randomized controlled trial.
Sodium Fluoride Treatment of Osteoporosis: Radiologic Findings
originally posted by: Realtruth
Most people cannot dig their own wells, if they live in a city area, it's illegal and will result in a law suit from the city itself.
Fluoride is absolutely and infringement on people rights, because they do not have the choice, it is put into the public water system whether they like it, or not. Anything more that filtered and clean water is an infringement of people's rights.
Catching rain water is illegal in many states and cities now. Google it and deny ignorance. People are getting sued by the cities they live in for collecting rain water. Fact.
I have a friend that lives in Ojai, California rural farm. The government forced him to put a water meter, on his own well that has been there since the 1950's, and sued him in federal court to make sure him complied. They also forced him to dismantle concrete water cisterns he had to catch rain water.
This is just the beginning of the water wars.
originally posted by: superman2012
It's so free that you can go ahead and dig your own well with the proper paperwork and build your own reverse osmosis water treatment plant to get rid of any fluoride that might be in the groundwater. Fluoride isn't an infringement of rights anymore then adding sodium hydroxide to raise the pH is.
You do know that it isn't illegal to catch and save rain water right?