90% of what is wrong with the educational system in 3:17 minutes

This is as condensed as it can get.



Was going to add it to the Human rights thread but it is just different enough to merit it's own thread.

a reply to: VforVendettea

I wonder if anyone told him cutting his hair would increase his chances of holding a regular job.

Aside from that I am sure they taught him how to look up those things on a computer so I think that is called willful ignorance.

a reply to: Grimpachi

I think you missed the point.

Cool video. I don't think the point is not stay in school though I think the point is to change the system and I totally agree.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Self expression. I appreciate those that stand out in a crowd, they tend to be more interesting. The hair is great and I suspect he is or will be making a living with his own art.

a reply to: VforVendettea

Reminds me of the very scary Pink Floyd song Another Brick in the Wall.
Just a different approach.

LOL at cursive.
Right along with Band and Choir.
Waste of time. Waste of resources.

That was pretty good. I wasn't expecting a "rap".

Immortal Technique and Pink Floyd come to mind..



Ha,

originally posted by: Aliensun
Reminds me of the very scary Pink Floyd song Another Brick in the Wall.
Just a different approach.

a reply to: staple

School is more than just a waste.

Children and old people are an important resource for the rest of the world to understand. Old people for their wisdom and youth for its authenticity and it's connection to the god source , it's what we lack in society. These days.

a reply to: Grimpachi

I wonder if anyone told him cutting his hair would increase his chances of holding a regular job.

Is that really all you got from that ?...at which point did he talk or rap about not being able to get a job ?

He has a good point schools are not teaching people to survive in the outside world and that is exactly where the focus should be

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

With the attention towards the cost of a mortgage and raising a kid it sounded like he needs something that pays better.


It's great if he can make a living off raping though it is a tough scene, but he may get lucky.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

With the attention towards the cost of a mortgage and raising a kid it sounded like he needs something that pays better.


It's great if he can make a living off raping though it is a tough scene, but he may get lucky.

Good luck to him if he can....

I am not sure about you but when i was in school they did not teach me about having kids and what was involved and they certainly didn't teach me anything about a mortgage.....(incidentally is Latin for death contract or contract till death)

The message i got from it was wants to know why these things are not taught in school

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Well, I didn't have a class on the cost of mortgages either but I was able to figure it out pretty easy with 15 and 30 year fixed on the percentage rates. In school I may have had a few word problems like that as well, it's been a while. As far as raising a kid that's tough because it cost varies from family to family and lifestyle to lifestyle. They may not teach that for fear of the population dropping.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Fair enough....

They may not teach that for fear of the population dropping.

I never had really thought about it from that angle....food for thought

He is right, those things SHOULD be taught in school. That doesn't man that the other things should be eliminated. People won't know if they are interested in a subject if they aren't exposed to it. However, how much time they spend studying something they don't need should be a choice...to a point.

There were a lot of things in school I didn't think I would ever need, so I didn't pay attention. It took me until mid 20's and even 30's to figure out I needed those things and then had to teach my self.

a reply to: VforVendettea

I completely disagree with this rap. Among the many things he mentioned such as taxes, mortgages, and so on. This is all covered in math classes. You just have to apply it to the current problem. The subjects covered in school are quite good, they give a broad knowledge base. The whole issue as I've come to learn is that people are really bad at applying a block of knowledge from one problem to a new problem. That was never an issue to me, but apparently it is to many.

The approach seems wrong, not the subjects covered.

This whole rap comes down to a complaint that he was taught the basics of how things function in order to determine his own answers rather than having just been given answers in the first place, and that he apparently can't do that.

The point of his rap is best summed up as saying, we need to teach that 75+75=150 not how to add the two numbers in the first place.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

With the attention towards the cost of a mortgage and raising a kid it sounded like he needs something that pays better.


It's great if he can make a living off raping though it is a tough scene, but he may get lucky.

Good luck to him if he can....

I am not sure about you but when i was in school they did not teach me about having kids and what was involved and they certainly didn't teach me anything about a mortgage.....(incidentally is Latin for death contract or contract till death)

The message i got from it was wants to know why these things are not taught in school

Practical living skills were certainly not taught when I was in grammar and high school. I think they're vital. So is teaching critical reasoning and how to research. Basically, students were channeled toward academic pre-college courses or vocational courses. Of course the vocational courses taught skills that were useful to get a job (how to operate machinery, build with wood, agriculture, etc.) but they didn't really cover the things that people need to know to get through life: how to open a bank account, get a loan, start a business, travel safely, social skills, how to avoid being conned, marriage and children, how to select a personal morality and philosophy of life, etc. I realize that several of the latter open up a proverbial can of worms, but introducing the idea that you will need to figure out how to go about making choices is important.

I think when we were in high school many of us (unless we grew up very disadvantaged) had this notion that if we got a job or went to college everything would pretty much fall into place. In other words, we were clueless. We would have benefitted greatly from some real-life play acting. I would suggest something like this: Let the kids draw a situation out of a hat.

Example: You're a junior in college, work 20 hours a week a a pizza place, share an apartment with 3 guys and your girlfriend, whom you love very much, gets pregnant. What do you do? Do you drop out of college and get a full time job to support your child? Do you get married? Do stay in school, drop out of the football team and get a night job shoveling elephant dung at the zoo? Do you bail, enlist in the military and go to some third-world hellhole on the off-chance that it's not going to be worse than the situation at home?

Another scenario: You leave high school and get married at 18 and live and work on your parents' farm which has been in the family for 100 years. The plan is that when your parent's retire, you'll inherit the farm. Your parent's are suddenly killed in a car crash and the farm is yours. However, the weather has been horrible and the crops failed and you've had to borrow money from the bank. You're not as good a farmer as your parents and the second year the crops fail, too. Do you sell all or part of the farm that's been in your family for a century? Do you agree to share ownership of the farm with your brother who is a jerk just to keep it in the family?

What do you think? Would play-acting scenarios like these have prepared you for real life better than the curriculum in your high school?

I would have appreciated being taught the laws we're expected to follow, the taxes we're expected to pay, and most importantly how the money we're expected to earn works.

It was quite a shock learning these things on my own- I wasn't prepared for the world to be so blatantly broken.

This reminds me of my past...

When I was 20 years old, I known this guy for about 2 months and he asked me cash his check. The check bounced, in fact, it was a check receipt. I learned that part when the lady at the bank told me : "Didn't you learn that in High School?" I said : "No, they never made us learn anything practical to real life in High School."

I had 99% in economy class in high school, yet, I knew nothing about the REAL economy and money creation. It was all lies...anyway, back to the check. The bank asked me to give back 400$ in less than a week, I was a student mostly living at my expenses back then so obviously, I didn't have the money. Well, she called me a liar and a thief with phrases like "I know young people like you, you're all little crooks". I was flabergasted, I really didn't know...I just wanted to be a good person at first.

a reply to: Tangerine

What do you think? Would play-acting scenarios like these have prepared you for real life better than the curriculum in your high school?

Quite possibly .......Any kind of real life simulations they could have taught would have been helpful ...

Maybe the real life training should be taught at home,for me though my parents were chasing money and had no time for their kids so no real life experience came through them.....

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Tangerine

What do you think? Would play-acting scenarios like these have prepared you for real life better than the curriculum in your high school?

Quite possibly .......Any kind of real life simulations they could have taught would have been helpful ...

Maybe the real life training should be taught at home,for me though my parents were chasing money and had no time for their kids so no real life experience came through them.....

Parent's don't teach this or are ignored or young people wouldn't be surprised by that which they experience in the real world.