Why The Jordanian Pilot Was Captured, The Ugly Truth. Possible Theory?

Well this seems like a very plausible theory. According to sources, the Jordanian pilot noticed that US planes were dropping weapons to ISIS in an "organized" way. The Pilot reported this and soon after jumped out of his plane when he was engaged by a US missile. There were apparently no attempts to save the pilot, instead he was left to be captured by ISIS in the hopes that he would be killed and silenced.
Now I know this is just conjecture, but it really makes a lot of sense, and I believe that it could be true. Remember, this is NOT the first time that it was alleged that the US was seen dropping weapons and supplies to ISIS fighters. What is your opinion ATS? banoosh.com...

a reply to: thesmokingman

Makes much more sense than the Pilot being shot down by his Wingman.

a reply to: thesmokingman

Why is it of popular opinion here to believe that America is directly involved, complicit omnipotent,omnipresent, in all Ill and negative world acts? You just swallow conjecture and say yea, sounds right to me. I don't argue America has chosen strategy over moral compass but still sells moral obligation. I am arguing its rediculous to believe Americas direct responsibility for everything wrong in the world.

There was some headline I read claiming the F16 was downed by his OWN WINGMAN....
Perhaps this is propaganda?
Wouldn't trust the USA as far as I could throw it....but the counter propaganda is equally plentiful....
Just who is Banoosh anyways.....?They sound a little bit like the Islamic party line....
and their English is a little bit off.....

a reply to: thesmokingman

Now THAT is a twist in the story. FINALLY another perspective and something we could have all been blind to see.

Well done on the plot twist. This opened my eyes a lot more.

S & F

originally posted by: stirling
There was some headline I read claiming the F16 was downed by his OWN WINGMAN....
Perhaps this is propaganda?
Wouldn't trust the USA as far as I could throw it....but the counter propaganda is equally plentiful....
Just who is Banoosh anyways.....?They sound a little bit like the Islamic party line....
and their English is a little bit off.....

Was this the story you were referring to?

Jordan F16s Strike ISIS Targets, Honor Dead Pilot's Family
www.nbcnews.com...

Meahwhile, sources told NBC News late Thursday that the Jordanian government is investigating the possibility that the al-Kasasbeh ejected after being shot down by his own wingman. U.S. officials referred all questions to the Jordanians, who said that they have no ability to inspect the wreckage since it is in ISIS territory — and that the bottom line is that their pilot was tortured and burned alive by terrorists.

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: thesmokingman

Why is it of popular opinion here to believe that America is directly involved, complicit omnipotent,omnipresent, in all Ill and negative world acts? You just swallow conjecture and say yea, sounds right to me. I don't argue America has chosen strategy over moral compass but still sells moral obligation. I am arguing its rediculous to believe Americas direct responsibility for everything wrong in the world.

Because, America was involved in(or at least had knowledge of) the biggest "terrorist" attack on its own people to start a never ending war against "terror". Im sorry, but if they are capable of doing that, I put NOTHING past them. It is my STRONG belief, that ISIS is a creation of and funded and aided by the US/CIA/Israel/Mossad. So yes, I stand by my statement, 100%.

a reply to: thesmokingman

Has it occurred to you America doesn't need to fly a false flag, to meet its objectives?

a reply to: thesmokingman

i would not be surprised in the least if the us was found to be meddling again.

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011
a reply to: thesmokingman

Now THAT is a twist in the story. FINALLY another perspective and something we could have all been blind to see.

Well done on the plot twist. This opened my eyes a lot more.

S & F

Just passing on the info, but as I said, I have believed from the beginning that "ISIS" is being ran by the US/Mossad, in order to goad many countries into a proxy war in the ME, in an attempt to eradicate the muslim/Islamic people.

[SNip]

What I found really interesting was how massive the change in the Jordanian psyche was after the killing.
Now to be fair it was quite possibly the sickest and most brutal act you could in on someone but before it happened the average Jordanian was either sympathetic or indifferent to IS and now (rightly so I guess) baying for blood.
Prior people were protesting attacking fellow muslims but now are protesting they arent being killed quick enough.

Really really bad PR work on IS behalf or a wonderful piece of war mongering propaganda if you are inclined to believe IS being some sort of tool to get the west happy to go to war

a reply to: thesmokingman

Do you have any other links with the source material, or could you quote the source material in your post? I am unable to access the link you posted on my work computer, and I would really love to read it.

I am more interested in the airdrops....
More information is needed....
This could be counter propaganda that ISIS is spreading....
Plenty of US aid to Yazidi or Kurdish forces could have easily gone to ISIS from errant drops near Kobane or the Yazidi pocket which the Kurds have rescued by now.....
Disinfo is so thick you could pave the entire ME with bull#...

This theory has some merit.

The U.S. (Obama) has been pussy footing around the whole ISIS issue since it started.



Not to even suggest the MSM is all propaganda anyway.

Why should anyone trust NBC especially?

a reply to: TechniXcality

The thing is Tech...

As often as people come into threads saying "it must be the U.S./CIA"...

Equally as often, people come into threads and say "the U.S./CIA can't be involved in everything"...



And to be honest both arguments could be wrong.

The second is more believable... Slightly...
I say "slightly" because it's not that hard to believe a Superpower really does have a finger in every pie...

But usually when that argument is made it's never backed up with proof that it wasn't the U.S./CIA...
Just used as a rebuttal to people who think it was...




Really we have to take everything into account rather than take either of those responses as Gospel.


imo.

It's difficult to give any credence to the claims and it comes across as more of a speculative theory in the article.

That said, could ISIS bring an F-16 down with the weapons in their possession? I would doubt it, unless they have been handed such weapons by NATO. Maybe to use on Syrian jets?

If this was the case though, would the U.S run these sorties if they knew they had them?

So, maybe the Saudis or Israel have provided the means?

originally posted by: xuenchen
This theory has some merit.

The U.S. (Obama) has been pussy footing around the whole ISIS issue since it started.

Not to even suggest the MSM is all propaganda anyway.

Why should anyone trust NBC especially?

No particular reason to trust any MSM these days...Cointelpro never stops.....
The facts always seem to get twisted into emotional prods to whoever they pander to....

a reply to: thesmokingman

So AFTER he reports seeing this, blowing the OP, the US shoots him down, completely ignoring his wingman, who would have heard the radio call and seen the drop taking place, letting him go free and clear to report what he saw.

As opposed to an accidental blue on blue by the wingman, which has happened many times in the past.

All these missions are coordinated through the US commands. It would be a lot easier for them to simply do the drop at a time when no one was in the area.

originally posted by: thesmokingman

Just passing on the info.... The Jews are trying to eradicate a whole people, just as the Nazis aledgedly did in WW2.

Just passing info with a pinch of bias.

So I guess the Jordanians are in on this too, and agreed to have heir own pilot killed to keep a secret. It seems this site is located in Bahrain so I'm sure that doesn't add to the bias too.... hehe

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: thesmokingman

Has it occurred to you America doesn't need to fly a false flag, to meet its objectives?

And YOU win the prize for the statement of the year in my opinion.