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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: JadeStar
Meh. I think you're putting too much stock in to what is an unknown. You're assuming species will all have the "no, no, you go first" mentality.
I don't.
Read my above post. Those are games but nor really based on astrobiology. They MAKE it so those spheres of influence overlap but there is no good reason to believe they ever would in reality.
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: JadeStar
Meh. I think you're putting too much stock in to what is an unknown. You're assuming species will all have the "no, no, you go first" mentality.
I don't.
originally posted by: infinityorder
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: JadeStar
Meh. I think you're putting too much stock in to what is an unknown. You're assuming species will all have the "no, no, you go first" mentality.
I don't.
I agree, so do most of the top thinkers.
Carl Sagan being one of the most vocal for the last years of his life.
originally posted by: infinityorder
There is no need to go all " what if" on the subject.
Let's look at real evidence we have here.
originally posted by: JadeStar
originally posted by: infinityorder
There is no need to go all " what if" on the subject.
Let's look at real evidence we have here.
You violated the first rule of astrobiology when speculating about aliens:
"Never look at extraterrestrial life, it's environment, it's stressors, it's motivations as simply an extension of life on Earth because it is quite likely vastly different from life on Earth and to assume it would be the same also runs the risk of missing it."
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: JadeStar
"So far as we know" and "unlikely" being the key phrases.
Accepting that the likelihood of two groups fighting over one area is slim, why does that automatically mean the groups are passive and peaceful?
originally posted by: infinityorder
originally posted by: JadeStar
originally posted by: infinityorder
There is no need to go all " what if" on the subject.
Let's look at real evidence we have here.
You violated the first rule of astrobiology when speculating about aliens:
"Never look at extraterrestrial life, it's environment, it's stressors, it's motivations as simply an extension of life on Earth because it is quite likely vastly different from life on Earth and to assume it would be the same also runs the risk of missing it."
And you are violating one of sciences founding principles.
You are assuming, and then using assumptions like they are facts.
originally posted by: JadeStar
Unless we detect some sort of massive battle taking place around another star any ideas about "space wars" are sci-fi speculation with little real logical basis to exist in reality.
originally posted by: peck420
originally posted by: JadeStar
Unless we detect some sort of massive battle taking place around another star any ideas about "space wars" are sci-fi speculation with little real logical basis to exist in reality.
It should be noted that we are currently incapable of detecting any said battles until they are long complete.
originally posted by: infinityorder
I can't link from my phone..well I can it is just a pain in the are and I am too lazy.
originally posted by: starwarsisreal
Would a space-faring civilization have some sort of space police force?
Now some people argued that a space faring civilization would never be militaristic. But however, would there be a space police force of some sort?
Many films like Star Wars and Guardians of the Galaxy covers the ideas of a space police force such as the Jedi and the Nova Corps.
While it is highly unlikely according to some people that there would be a militaristic extraterrestrial civilization what about space crimes? I mean there's going to still be crimes like murder and space piracy of some sort that would happen.
Plus I'm pretty sure a space police force would be used in the event a potential civilization becomes a threat to the Universe like Earth should their military industrial complex decided to expand outwards.
originally posted by: JadeStar
originally posted by: Shamrock6
I, for one, have a hard time buying in to the whole "so advanced everything is perfect and nobody is ever a jerk because utopia" idea. Then again, I'm human and being a jerk is in some people's nature. Maybe other species don't have that
problem?
The main reason people are jerks is because of competition for things, resources, breeding, etc.
Take that away and what happens?
If one can travel between the stars one has access to more resources than they'd ever need....
originally posted by: JadeStar
originally posted by: infinityorder
I can't link from my phone..well I can it is just a pain in the are and I am too lazy.
You dropped the reference to Carl Sagan without the link, it's YOUR responsibility not mine to google it.