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House Votes to Repeal Obamacare, Again

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posted on Feb, 3 2015 @ 09:01 PM
The U.S. House of Representatives has passed a bill to repeal the ACA aka Obama.Care

They've done it before to a dead end.

This time the Senate may go along.

The bill is simple and provides enough "new" ideas to preserve certain things like keeping availability to insurance for people with pre-existing conditions.


Maybe Obama should listen this time.

His reputation is on the line now that Democrats in Congress can't keep a lid on the kettle so easily anymore.

Something like this might make the idea actually work for a change

House Votes to Repeal Obamacare, Again

February 3, 2015 The House voted 239-186 on Tuesday to repeal Obamacare—y'know, in case it wasn't clear where the Republicans stood on that issue.

It's the fourth time in four years the GOP-led House has passed a stand-alone bill to fully repeal Obamacare—or the sixth time, if you count budget resolutions, which include full repeal but are nonbinding. Including bills to defund or repeal parts of the law, the House has held more than 50 anti-Obamacare votes since Republicans took control in 2011.

President Obama has signed some of those smaller measures, but Tuesday's full-repeal bill stands as strong a chance as its predecessors: none whatsoever. Just as unsurprising as the House bill's passage was the White House's veto threat, which went on at great length about the law's progress. Obama counterprogrammed Tuesday's vote by meeting with 10 people who have been helped by the Affordable Care Act.


Part of H.R. 596 ...


The Committee on Education and the Workforce, the Committee on Energy and Commerce, the Committee on the Judiciary, and the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives shall each report to the House of Representatives legislation proposing changes to existing law within each committee's jurisdiction with provisions that--

(1) foster economic growth and private sector job creation by eliminating job-killing policies and regulations;

(2) lower health care premiums through increased competition and choice;

(3) preserve a patient's ability to keep his or her health plan if he or she likes it;

(4) provide people with pre-existing conditions access to affordable health coverage;

(5) reform the medical liability system to reduce unnecessary and wasteful health care spending;

(6) increase the number of insured Americans;

(7) protect the doctor-patient relationship;

(8) provide the States greater flexibility to administer Medicaid programs;

(9) expand incentives to encourage personal responsibility for health care coverage and costs;

(10) prohibit taxpayer funding of abortions and provide conscience protections for health care providers;

(11) eliminate duplicative government programs and wasteful spending; or

(12) do not accelerate the insolvency of entitlement programs or increase the tax burden on Americans.

H.R. 596

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posted on Feb, 3 2015 @ 09:20 PM
a reply to: xuenchen

Lol...and the game continues....

(post by lynxpilot removed for a serious terms and conditions violation)

posted on Feb, 3 2015 @ 09:48 PM
To me it was passed by fradulent means said it was going to be cheap and affordable for all and clearly isn' to keep your existing plans but you that didn't happen either....To me any law passed that doesn't give what it promises should automatically be repealed without a vote....a reply to: xuenchen

posted on Feb, 3 2015 @ 11:00 PM
a reply to: xuenchen

Instead of spending all this time trying to repeal it, maybe they should use that time to come up with a better health care plan. I don't know if you saw the CNN special on medical tourism, but it was an eye opener. It costs a lot less to travel abroad to get the same medical treatment we receive in the states. The reporter was amazed how much cleaner the hospitals were and there was literally no waiting to be seen by the doctor. The medical bills are considerably a lot less, and the doctors were educated in medical schools in the U.S.. Hotel stays were only $100 dollars a night, and some were located right off the beaches! The hospitals are ran efficient, x-ray, mri's and blood test results are completed quickly.

The U.S. should be ashamed of their healthcare system. The majority of industrial nations take care of their citizens healthcare. The U.S. on the other hand, wants to bankrupt people if they're ever unfortunate to be strickened with a devastating illness. When you grow old and ever need nursing home assistance, the government makes sure you wipe out your inheritance for your children and the nursing home puts a lean on your home.

The cost of medical and prescription procedures are outrageous! Need a hearing-aid? You can easily spend 3,000 to 10,000 dollars on a pair of hearing aids! No wonder most people go without them.

Conservatives still want the insurance companies to gouge the paying public and local businesses. Insurance companies decide on treatment instead of the patient's own doctor. Ask any doctor, and they'll tell you their treatment is controlled by the insurance companies. The only people who can afford the best healthcare insurance are the rich. If you're poor or middle class, new life saving procedures are not an option. If the insurance company doesn't pay, you're screwed.

Medical and prescription costs have to be brought into check. They can fight and bicker on capital hill, but they continue to ignore the dire problems that are faced by many Americans.

posted on Feb, 3 2015 @ 11:04 PM

originally posted by: WeRpeons
a reply to: xuenchen

Instead of spending all this time trying to repeal it, maybe they should use that time to come up with a better health care plan.

Easy; the Government isn't designated to determine private contracts and should remain outside of them; absent applicable law; from doing anything...

I live in a pipe dream.

posted on Feb, 3 2015 @ 11:13 PM

We should all gets us some of them tin foil hats to save us from Obamas Muslim health care goblins!

posted on Feb, 3 2015 @ 11:52 PM
Let me tell you all a little story.

Last month I broke my hand. Spent 4 hours waiting at the hospital. Saw the doctor during that whole time for no longer than 2 minutes total.

I finally got the bill today. $1000 for one broken finger. Spent a month in a cast. For NO REASON.

It wasn't the insurance companies ripping people off. It's the GD hospitals. Because the only thing insurance companies do is just pay the hospital bill.

The Affordable Shaft Act does NOTHING to address the charges hospitals make.

Yeah people IT DOES NEED repealed.

posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 12:02 AM
a reply to: neo96

The scheme of insurance is to blame. Doctors (or hospitals) operate under a scheme of rates dependant upon that which insurance companies are willing to pay. Broken finger? We will claim it took us this amount; called X (which is predefined by some regulation) and after that, we will determine if such is applicable or we need more money.

Insurance in its modern infestation is a scam.

posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 12:28 AM
a reply to: xuenchen

Maybe Obama should listen this time

This is the 50th time they're trying to repeal it I believe. Anytime now Xuenchen, I'm sure.

a reply to: WeRpeons

Instead of spending all this time trying to repeal it, maybe they should use that time to come up with a better health care plan.

They already have a healthcare plan. It's called "put all your trust in the healthcare corporations". In other words, go back to what we had before. And also allow healthcare corporations to sell across state lines, ignoring state laws (full faith and credit thrown out of the window), make more profit out of lower taxing states, and just hope... just hope they'll lower their prices. Because that's worked before.

posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 12:37 AM
More tax payers money wasted so the gop can pretend it never intended to implement something like obamacare. Pandering for votes for the 2016 election, obumercare isisnt going anywhere, i cant wait to hear the gops excuses after the next election when they explain why its not going anywhere.

Thanks mr X and friends made my day.

posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 12:46 AM
Who is looking out for big insurance companies and their executives plans on getting richer off our misfortune? Give those billionaires a break America! They are living the American Dream at our expence they deserve our money forever and ever. . . .

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posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 01:32 AM

I dont need no socialist healthcare! I wanna pay those insurance companies for the rest of my life with all the wealth I have ever had or will ever get, they deserve it for being on the top! If we have health care for all that just sounds to goody too shoes, we need to live like the road warrior rugged and on the wild side, no healthcare for anyone but the few who have saved up enough to pay for our trips to go to the emergency room! I have been working all my life and cant wait to give everything to big insurance companies, they deserve it all and more, its the American way after all. If I wanted healthcare for all I would go to Canada and frolic with the healthy folk. . . .
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posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 03:39 PM
a reply to: neo96

Hell has frozen over because I'm about to agree with neo96...

The hospitals are responsible for the charges. The insurance companies pay a portion of that charge that the insurance company finds 'reasonable' and expects you to cover the rest. This is where the ACA failed because it's letting 'the market' decide. The ACA regulates the insurers but not so much the hospitals. The ACA lets the insurers decide the costs and the hospitals can either take it or leave it.

The worst part of it is that the hospitals realize that they're overcharging. My little story:

I had some procedure done a while back that resulted in a pretty hefty bill. I could pay it, but I couldn't pay it all at once. I called the hospital to let them know not to expect a full payment from me. They asked my annual income (I make a little more than average) and then they knocked 75% of my bill off. They took 75% because I didn't make enough. I'm not so much upset about having to pay less...but it made me think, what if I didn't call them? What about some family making less than I do not calling them? There was no indication on the bill that I could pay less if I made X amount per year.

The whole system is a racket and we should've just gone single-payer from the start.

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