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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
Allah knows what's in the Hearts & Souls of the people...
& that's what He Judges...Not the words that are spoke...
Verily, those who disbelieve, it is the same to them whether you O Muhammad warn them or do not warn them, they will not believe.
7. Allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearings, and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be a great torment.
8. And of mankind, there are some hypocrites who say: "We believe in Allah and the Last Day" while in fact they believe not.
9. They (think to) deceive Allah and those who believe, while they only deceive themselves, and perceive (it) not!
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: WarminIndy
Yes we did and I already explained, which you failed to comprehend I guess, the definition of "Is & Was"...
We also say Jesus Is the Prophet of God...
& Moses Is the Prophet of God...
& Jacob Is the Prophet of God...
& Noah is the Prophet of God...
I could continue...
But you should now be able to understand that is not in any sense of the word, a comparison to God's divinity!
Finally...
Surah 4:65
But no, by the Lord, they can have no (real) Faith, until they make thee judge in all disputes between them, and find in their souls no resistance against Thy decisions, but accept them with the fullest conviction.
The bold, in the original Arabic translation, means to swear by himself.
So you should stop getting your info wherever you seem to, because ironically, they are lies!
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: WarminIndy
Yes we did and I already explained, which you failed to comprehend I guess, the definition of "Is & Was"...
We also say Jesus Is the Prophet of God...
& Moses Is the Prophet of God...
& Jacob Is the Prophet of God...
& Noah is the Prophet of God...
I could continue...
But you should now be able to understand that is not in any sense of the word, a comparison to God's divinity!
Finally...
Surah 4:65
But no, by the Lord, they can have no (real) Faith, until they make thee judge in all disputes between them, and find in their souls no resistance against Thy decisions, but accept them with the fullest conviction.
The bold, in the original Arabic translation, means to swear by himself.
So you should stop getting your info wherever you seem to, because ironically, they are lies!
Once again please excuse my ignorance but could that somehow be related to the fact that Jesus pretty much had nothing to do with any countries (probably didnt even have much knowledge of any others) except for what are now Muslim ones and Rome?
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: WarminIndy
There are many verses in the Quran that prohibits lying in all forms...
& I have no right to swear by Allah's name...
And I'm not Shiite.
Taqiyya means nothing to me.
Not until you try to brainwash people into thinking its wholly Islamic rather than a Shia Tradition.
It is obligatory upon a Muslim who wishes to swear an oath to do so by Allah alone. It is an act of polytheism to take an oath in the name of any created thing. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “Whoever would take an oath must either swear his oath by Allah or remain silent.” [Sahîh al-Bukhârî (2679) and Sahîh Muslim (1646)]
Swearing an oath by Allah’s attributes is the same as swearing an oath by Allah. Therefore, it is permissible for a person to swear by Allah’s might or His power or His life, or His words. Therefore, we find in the Sunnah that we should seek refuge with Allah’s words. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “Whoever comes to a place and says: ‘I seek refuge with all the words of Allah from the evil that He created’, nothing will harm him until he departs from that place.” [Sahîh Muslim (2708)]
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: WarminIndy
I never disagreed with you about "your book"...
Nor have I even mentioned the Bible at all...
& we say "Is the Prophet" in regards to all the Prophets because their teachings are eternal...
Not because we equate then to God.
Secondly, "Jesus IS the eternal Son and God..."....
Says you!
God has no need for offspring.
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: WarminIndy
Allah can swear by whatever He wills...
& there was nothing divine about Jesus.
Quran is not eternal
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: WarminIndy
I misunderstood your question I didn't read it an an Oath to Allah i read it as taking Allah's name in vain.
Yes I swear an Oath by Allah not to commit taqiyya.
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: WarminIndy
Quran is not eternal
People like you were saying that 1400 years ago...
In response to such a self assured provlomation...
Allahu Akbar.
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: WarminIndy
Yes Taqiyya exists...
No it is not in the Quran... Nor am I permitted to do it.
Do not twist my words to fit you agenda.