Admit it, NWO is inevitable

originally posted by: WatchingY0u
a reply to: intrptr
We all know what evil is, deceiving people, raping people, if you have alot of something and feel as if and you see that someone may need some of what you have, you are to greedy to share, that's evil.

One mans evil is another mans shining example.

Like, beheading one person with a knife is abhorrent but blowing them to bits with bombs is okay, that kind of thing.

a reply to: intrptr

People have to understand that the last 4000 years this world foundation is evil and people think it's normal to do evil, so you have these new people combating this evil world, you think people are gonna up to you and tap you on the shoulder and say, sir what you're doing is evil, it goes against the laws of nature. NO, you fight force with force. It's all about a person's mindset, are you just doing it just to be doing it, or are you doing it to combat the evil for the greater good. See what I'm saying?

Old...new...there will always be some sort of order to the world.
Personally I look forward to the version when we consciously put forward representatives and the world body focuses on things like energy, space, hunger, and other global society issues. I think such structure could do tremendous good.


But for now, we aren't ready. Too much inequality in the world. things have to start leveling out before such a structure exists, and since I am western, my preference isn't to bring down the advanced nations, rather, uplift the poor and backwoods nations to our level.

a reply to: WatchingY0u

Yes, I see what you are saying… evil begets evil.

people of the world might be more open to the idea of a new world order if they had more trust in the current world leaders.
There`s too much schemeing,scamming, deceiving,backstabbing,etc going on now,so there`s no reason to believe that it won`t continue in a new world order.If a new world order really would be best for the world then they should be more transparent and up front about it.
They don`t need to keep up with all this schemeing and scamming to force a new world order on the people,all they need to do is do what politicians already do, LIE.
They could gain world wide support for a new world order by just lying to the people, tell the people whatever they want to hear to gain their support.Then when the new world order has been established they can re-neg on their promises and it will be too late for the people to do anything about it.

The world leaders have proven time and time again that whenever they are being sneaky about something it ends up not being in the best interest of the people.

NWO is not in the future. It is already implemented just not spanning the whole world. When people allowed the top bankers to take over the economic system thru FED and IMF and continued to believe capitalism is the only way forward you gave them more control every year.

There is a reason capitalism in south america has a bad name and that socialistic changes where implemented to not allow the full robber barons effect. Capitalism only works for a few while parasitizing on those at the bottom holding all the cards so there is no free will for those at the bottom. The reason it does this is that the free market will and can never be fully implemented. To have a free market all souls in the world have to know everything every time. And the funny thing is that when every one know everything all the time the free market would in effect equalize all work to give of the same value.

Monopoly and oligopoly is a natural effect of power massing in the hands of a few (thru greed) and those that hold the power and resources will in the end corrupt the politicians and you get fascism. A power triangle where the top part of the triangle have both the political and the economic control over everyone else.

And implementing a political power pyramid controlling everything like in "communist" Soviet is only the same disease in another form. It has always been power on the most local level where the people decide what to do with equal power and the people work at making sure there is no corruption in their mist.

a reply to: intrptr
Evil isn't just gonna hop off the throne and say, oh I give up, I'm sorry for the millions I caused to starve and the damage I caused. The Supreme Being knows how these people think therefore he is the One whom recommends force, they will be pushed off the throne. You know what they say, evil prevails when good people do nothing.

a reply to: WatchingY0u

You know what they say, evil prevails when good people do nothing.

Thats why I said that all we can do is be the example we want to see. "Fighting evil" is what evil wants. Evil people want you to get in a fight with them. They want you to resist their evil.

Thats how they win, by getting you to do what they do, destroy the world.

The banks sit back and rake it in, selling weapons to both sides and loaning money to clean up the mess after its over.

So sign up, go fight, just remember whether you win or lose, you still lose.

a reply to: intrptr
Out of my mouth comes a double edged sword and in my hand is a pen, these are my only weapons.

a reply to: SaturnFX

The fastest way to uplift the world to the Advance world would be through conflict. The next generation would grow stronger, better maybe even redesigned. (Implant's and Exoskeletons. Re-moveable/Mobile Conscious. etc..)

Just have to make sure to to manage the aftermath. It could be done in the next 50 years. Of course, after the PLANET IS UNDER complete totalitarian control. , there would be pockets of resistance to pop up over the next 20 or 30 years. But that's when you start to build the World democracy. You slowly loosen the grip. Start allowing more and more Freedoms through. You just have to find the balance of how hard to squeeze and to un-squeeze to allow the most efficient working machine to march forward to the stars. That machine is the humans and their A.I. With that kind of advancement, we should be unstoppable in the Universe. We could shape the universe to be our own.

a reply to: Unity_99

Yes they will fall even further down from my point of view. I do hate them for what they are and what they do right now but I can at least love their potential of what they can be in a billion years. There are better levels than this (Saṃsāra) and worse levels than this.

Trickle up economy->Trickle up karma. Sacrificing the future for the now was never a wise decision.

Namaste

a reply to: rokkuman

So...basically, you're saying that the NWO will be imposed from above against the will of a large number of people.

originally posted by: rokkuman
I never said those people are the great minds working towards the NWO.

I could send you more links with George Bush, Henry Kissenger, and Adolf Hitler promoting the New World Order, but like my past two posts you will ignore everything and call it a straw man.

The globalists are, not coincidentally, the evil people ruining our planet right now. They just want more power.

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: WatchingY0u
a reply to: intrptr
We all know what evil is, deceiving people, raping people, if you have alot of something and feel as if and you see that someone may need some of what you have, you are to greedy to share, that's evil.

One mans evil is another mans shining example.

Like, beheading one person with a knife is abhorrent but blowing them to bits with bombs is okay, that kind of thing.

That reminded me of something Marlon Brando playing the character of Kurtz in the "Apocalypse Now" movie spoke;

"We train young men to drop fire on people, but their commanders won't allow them to write "#" on their airplanes because it's obscene!".

I read a paper years ago by a prominent International Relations academic whose whole field of research was around globalization his argument was really interesting as far as a one world government goes. He essentially argued that as the world becomes more and more interconnected and our economic systems becomes more connected it is inevitable that eventually mankind will realise that having a one world government would be of benefit.

Not exactly a NWO conspiracy or anything just a genuine academic theory that points to the idea that a one world government is a inevitability at some point in our future.

I cannot remember the guys name, was a really interesting paper.

a reply to: rokkuman

Who are you suggesting amongst humanity that HAS such qualities and would forgo the usual massing of treasure?
NAME people who would have such character.
NAME even one.

messed up the quote format, delete please.

a reply to: rokkuman

Points I agree with here and some are blatantly wrong, IMO.

I also believe a NWO isn't inherently evil. However, the are few, if any, that are inherently evil.

The idea we can only evolve if we work as one is false. Most progress has been by the few. Every gain by humanity has been in the face of oppression and deprivation. The solution to alternative energy supplies and all the rest lies in not the 'collective', but in individuals. Can collective co-operation solve problems? Of course! The key, however, is a willing participation of that collective body.

The key point missed here in a world gov't isn't slavery, although that's not impossible, it's more subtle, it's control. A world gov't despite those members that are well intentioned and benevolent, becomes a conduit, a control mechanism for those that are not well intentioned.

The ill that many describe as nationalism, of 'countries' is inaccurate. It is the gov'ts of those nations that create the problems, not the people of those nations, themselves!

The very social problems you feel would be solved by a world gov't now move upward into the new level of that world order and manifest themselves at an even more powerful level.

Enlightenment has always occurred on a one to one basis, be it face to face or book to reader. When a collective attempts to enlighten, all that results is indoctrination, generally.

Can good occur from a world gov't? Absolutely! The problem is when bad enters into that body there will be no 'alternative' to turn to. We will be stuck with it. More and more 'control'. Ever more pervasive. Ever more invasive.

The latest example is in the U.S.. We have the right to 'bug out' to go elsewhere if so inclined as to avoid this growing control. In the world gov't scenario, we would be stuck with it. No where to go....

Sorry, I will risk the down-side of diversity and discord, even war-gov'ts again-over a lock-step potentiality that a world gov't will inevitably result in.

We disagree. yet we can discuss those differences, Do you think the venue of ATS would exist in a world gov't scenario? I think not....

originally posted by: rokkuman
a reply to: ATF1886

Do you know these people personally?? So then what proof do you have that they are or are not??

Of course I don't know them personally why would you even ask me such a thing.

We do know that these people are intellectual giants and visionaries capable of thinking on a global scale. They definitely aren't bozos.

Yep, that's what I see here, intellectual giant.

Please.....

originally posted by: rokkuman

originally posted by: ATF1886
how am i a hypocrite can you answer that one or is this just another attack on me because of my faith...

Ok I am not attacking anybody.

I have noticed that many Christians oppose the NWO despite the fact that their bible teaches they will rule the world by a "rod of iron". Thats kind of hypocritical isn't it?

back to new world order people will never elect into order the world dictator it will most likely be a show of force .

You mean like this:
"But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'"
(luke 19:27)

You do know that the passage in Luke is a part of the Parable of Minas Right? Context is King.