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originally posted by: Sremmos80
Wonder why churches all go for tax free status then...
Seems if they are all about helping people and taxes go to just that, they would be all about it.
Do you know how many faith based organizations are really using church funds to help people?
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: WarminIndy
Do you know how many faith based organizations are really using church funds to help people?
Do you know how many would rather use it to build a mega church?
And yes taxes help people, put the stigma on it all you want.
Seems very appropriate.
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: WarminIndy
So I guess the nordic countries are just a bunch of no good Nazi's.
Or was your point to attach nazis with socialism?
ETA: Deleted part cause I said it wrong
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: WarminIndy
Cool so just want to cherry pick some?
I am not saying there is not some bad taxes out there that could go away, but there are people that fall on hard times and use the welfare system that are not abusers of it.
originally posted by: WarminIndy
originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: arpgme
Beautifully put, thank you and god bless you.
God gave enough for this world to be a paradise but man has turned it into a hell, only by following christ can they come to the truth.
Only by KNOWING Christ can one come to the truth.
Ye shall KNOW the truth, and the truth shall set you free. Unless you KNOW the One who is Truth, you can't know truth, all you have is an idea of truth.
Why don't people understand that they can KNOW the Eternal, Living Christ right now?
He is alive as we speak.
originally posted by: arpgme
This thread is not about Nazism or whether or not God is Merciful or revengful, rather this is about how to fulfill God's Law:
"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.\" - Matthew 7:12 Jesus Christ \
"For all the law is fulfilled in one word even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.\" - Galatians 5:14 Paul
Mark 12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? 29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. 31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. 32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: 33 And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices. 34 And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.
originally posted by: arpgme
a reply to: WarminIndy
If you obey his command of love thy neighbour as thyself then you do love God or you wouldn't be obeying it.
"For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and ifthere be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." - Romans 13:9
originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: WarminIndy
Oh I am not at all jealous of the rich, my mother is Lady hallworth, robbed of an inheritance that was so large when he was the MP (Member of Parliament) for west lancashire Mr Ken Hind called her into the office one day shortly before he had to vacate the office as he knew he was going to lose the by election, "I am sorry but it is that much money were this much money is concerned there is no gentleman above board, I am afraid I can not help you anymore" he said, he also happened to be a barrister so had checked it out, when my mother first went to see him he was under the impression he had already met her but my mother was never in receipt of her inheritance and a fake Duke is using her title so if you like you may call me a ducal prince not that I am keen on that kind of hypocrisy as all so called nobility are essentially thieves or the descendant's of such thieves and murderer's.
The sweat of one's own brow, here is a point how then are they entitled to the sweat of Christ's brow?.
Blessing's are not monatery at all, money is a curse when it is hoarded, "A rich man gathered all his wealth into a barn to store it up but then he died, Who then get's his wealth"
"Man does not live by bread alone but by every word of God".
You know the pharisee and Saducee both tried to debate with christ but both got there eye wiped to coin an english phrase, another point you miss is how he spoke of the priests and those who claimed to be righteous but were not, he simply did not like them calling them hypocrit's, he never liked the priests who made a big thing out of showing how pious they were but indeed the church and not only the Catholic or Anglican church's were all polluted by these people.
No christ went the pub and sat with the worst as at least they were not hypocrite's.
As for Sacremental ceremony you might like to know that the Anglican church and by dint of that all it's offshoot's including the methodist have Sacrement but the more common term in all including the catholic is Mass as you know.
The born again Christian's whom I was once a member of and since I am still a christian maybe still am are the one's who have tried to become even more pure than the protestant church as you also know.
Like I said I have ill health so as for sweat let me see, I used to work from 06.00 to 22.30 five day's a week and sometime's on the saturday as well, I also usually worked the sunday making my working very long indeed, I used to bleed without cuts to my feet sweating blood into my shoes from standing to long and the pain was excruciating so one thing I god forgive me I acutally hate is conceited attitude's of idiot's who think every poor person is a sherker.
I later worked in security for many year's as the former Job working for a japanese company had taken it out of me too much, the country under a labout government also later brought in working time regulations to minimize long hours as I was far from the only one, I have qualifications but they are electronic engineering and I am afraid our industry along with most of the job's I was qualified for left his country in droves through the 1980s on rich fat little men's whim's and greed to exploit the poor of asia who would work for a bowl of rice a day back then.
And like I say I am actually aristocracy but the poor kind, though legally if we had justice in the UK not only would non of the criminals who now run our government and bank's be in place but I would undoubtedly be uber rich, My mother inherited among other things race courses, tattershall's bloodstock's etc but they have bured the history along with the recent Lord and Lady Tattershall my mother's family and beneficiary's, she even had one police officer trying to say that it was becaue Elizabeth tattershall felt sorry for her and she had no claim to it anyway until my mother explained how we are related and he then appologized saying "I'm sorry it's terrible what we have done to you", we were told it was the british hierarchy that have robbed my mother and Ken Hind actually said to her "It is a group of people who have simply Taken your property and money, it is fraud and a criminal offence" this was before he took a reimbursement and said that about there being no gentleman above board.
So you were saying I am jealous eh, Veiled, if I was jealous I would say so no I am angry at injustice and corruption, I hate false christian's who think they are more christian than decent hard working people who would give there last penny and who by the way are far richer in other way's such as family and community and of course the love of God.
originally posted by: arpgme
a reply to: WarminIndy
Actually, love thy neighbour as thyself fulfills the entire law and to love God is to obey his law so in reality His law is One as he is One.
The Way is narrow. It's simple. Wide is the path that leads to destruction.
Isaiah 35:8 And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.
Hebrews 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
1 Chronicles 16:29 Give unto the Lord the glory due unto his name: bring an offering, and come before him: worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness.
1 Thessalonians 4:7 For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.