A Country Without Laws Would You Live There?

Think of a country without laws, no laws as all.
Meaning in this hypothetical place you can do anything and everything you ever wanted.

Many things that are now legal used to be illegal. . . .

So in a counrty where you could do anything because nothing would be against the law, what are some things you would want to do or have done?

Lots of science is currently against the law, you want your own clone army if you can figure out how to do it its possible in a chaos inspired country.

It is human nature to organize. It is also human nature to follow. Lawlessness wouldn't last long before someone rose up as leader, and the people naturally fell into order. In fact they are far more likely to do so if they believe they are living in lawlessness than if laws and a leader are imposed on them.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

I doubt that such a "country" could exist without laws.
If you are really intending to say "society" or "culture," I would still give you the same reply. In deed, the words "country," "society," and "culture" all imply a cooperation among the individuals.

Any collection of two humans or more automatically has laws from the most basic to the most complex.
That even applies to a pack of primates. Even there, the "lawless" ones get kicked out of the group.

Depends. Every civilisation needs laws/rules or it wont last too long. every animal on this planet is ruled by some law or another. by that i mean a hierarchy. The Lion will kill and feed himself first, but share after he has had his fill.

It's just that the laws/rules we have come to accept are wrong. We no longer just take our fill and share. we take our fill then put the rest away for a rainy day leaving the rest of the pack to either starve, pick up the crumbs or try to become the leader....Competition. it's a ruthless spiral.

I'll take laws on Sharing, love and respect for our fellow man. Love and respect for each and every animal on this planet before i take laws on profiteering from the pain and suffering of our fellow man and the exploitation and blatant disregard of every animal, humans include, here on Earth. somewhere down the line we have corrupted laws to suit our selfish needs/greed.

Prefer places without humans around .. too many busybodies and whiny little brats that cant think for themselves and want big brother to take care of them ..

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

We all did in the past until we decided to live in large groups when we decided that we didn't want to get murdered in our beds. Its not strange that people wanted laws to protect themselves and their rights and so our law evolved to protect citizens, however, there has been a subtle change brought slyly in over the years which now disregard citizen's rights and work for the rights of the corporate world and its lackies. Sadly we are starting to devolve again as can be seen by the hostility towards the police and government which is growing daily.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

i would go if the people had good morals

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Anarchy (voluntarism) is always preferable to a system of law (force).

Laws do not stop people from behaving immorally (rape, theft, murder, extortion, black mail, etc). If the existence of a law itself stopped a person from committing a crime (and I mean crime in it's true sense) then we would have no need for institutions like prisons.

A system of law gives you no choice but to acquiesce to the demands of your rulers. Whether your rulers are the majority in a democracy, a tyrant in a fascist system, a king in a monarchy, religious zeolats in a theocracy, or a small group of powerful rulers in an oligarchy--someone's will is being forced on you.

There is too much room for laws to turn away from defending liberty to being used as a tool of tyrants. Coercion is not civilized, and that's all a law is, law is organized coercion, but law and the organization of groups is not mutually inclusive. There is organization without law.

We do not need rulers to organize ourselves. As I stated, law is organized coercion, anarchy is voluntary organization. Law can only react to crime after the fact, and in general, the law makes it difficult for the victim to truly be able to defend themselves.

Would I live in a lawless society? Yes.

Consequence does not have to be written into law, we all understand it. Laws protect those that break them.

Is that not what Somalia is?


And guess what? I dont want to live there

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

I wish we could. The simple fact is humanity is not ready for that right now.

I imagine a lawless nation may rise one day in the future, where nothing is illegal, no one governs the actions of others.

Of course that doesnt mean gangs wouldnt form and despots, thieves, slavers, and every other form of filth wouldnt come out of the woodwork.

But in a country where everything is legal, its might makes right as there is no law to enforce other than your own law.

I imagine it to be a live by the sword die by the sword type of environment for those who would choose to live there.

On the upside nothing would be illegal and people that visited or lived there could live out thier otherwise illegal fantasies whatever they may be.

I imagine it might even be a rather peaceful place, as people may live and let live like the old west sorta.

Desnt mean there wont be fights and mahem but it would be up to individuals and groups to take the law into thier own hands and meet out justice in accordance with thier desires.

Also various countries may invest n setting up sopin the said country without rules to avoid the rules of thier own country and accomplish alot more than they ever could otherwise.
For example science without the oversight of governments and laws could progress exponentially. . . . . .
New forms of life may emerge as mutants and other creatures we would consider not human may be created by mad scientists.

A country without laws has some advantages to go with its one big disadvantage of being lawless.

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord


A country without laws has some advantages to go with its one big disadvantage of being lawless.

It would be an interesting experiment.

Can't think of anywhere on the planet that would allow it, all land masses are controlled by some country or another. Can't see a country saying, sure, take our land mass and make a new country.

Great fantasy though.

It would be the most prosperous nation on earth quite quickly.
And the most deadly nation on earth quite quickly.
As others have said, like the wild west without a sheriff.


At least it wouldn't go to war, without laws it could not form an army.
So it would leave other nations in peace.
But other nations, jealous of the prosperity and tax haven and criminal haven, would not let it exist long.

I would immediately stop working and see the world as a paradise where I have to defend together against the manipulated haters a little.
We'd have to plan how to prevent another small group to enforce civilization again quickly in this overpopulation and still vulnerable mass.

Well I think this depends what from which situation you are looking at, it really depends on the culture:

- In a samurai like small village, less laws are needed than in an overly modern large state, with a indisciplined, animal like culture and with issues like intellectual property etc etc.

- In my opinion laws should act more as a guideline, and should come from the heart (how corny it may sound). Things like judged could still be in play, however they should prove to be of high culturally evolved calibar. This is really difficult to control.

- So the larger and complex the society is, and the lower the evolvement of the people, the more laws are needed.

originally posted by: calstorm
It is human nature to organize. It is also human nature to follow. Lawlessness wouldn't last long before someone rose up as leader, and the people naturally fell into order. In fact they are far more likely to do so if they believe they are living in lawlessness than if laws and a leader are imposed on them.

I agree with this statement.

A country without laws..............Hmmmmm

At 55 Y/O I would have had one hell life what with killing robbers, dickheads and fighting people who "pissed me off " when I was driving, etc.
or whatever.

By this point in my life I would probably be dead, extremely messed up via innumerable, asswhippings. Or shot and dead.

Either way if you think about it.

Literally it's your fantasy world.

Metaphorically we talking about real life.

originally posted by: grubblesnert
A country without laws..............Hmmmmm


At 55 Y/O I would have had one hell life what with killing robbers, dickheads and fighting people who "pissed me off " when I was driving, etc.

or whatever.


By this point in my life I would probably be dead, extremely messed up via innumerable, asswhippings. Or shot and dead.


Either way if you think about it.


Literally it's your fantasy world.

Metaphorically we talking about real life.

You might not be dead if no one was on to you, however after killing enough bad dudes you would most likely have a Batman reputation and some hotshot villian may eventually take you down.

However live and let live, some may come to fear someone who has offed hundreds of bad dudes and decide to let you do your thing so they wont be next.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Yes, I would live in a country with no laws.
But I would have a gun and a lot of ammo.

I think in a country without laws mutations would start to be seen as the gene pool began to change for people who wanted to take evolution onto thier own hands.

I guess the transhumans and cyborgs would emerge as a part of such a society.