Fox News Finally Admits "Serious Factual Error" In Segment About Muslim "Zones"

originally posted by: Seamrog

originally posted by: seentoomuch

The police do not respond like they do here in the USA.

While I was getting bandaged, one of my friends was trying to ring up the police - to be politely told by the nurses that 'they would not come for a street scuffle.'

Thank you, Seamrog, for posting your experiences here. I am so appalled by the depth of ignorance on this thread. There are only a few people who know what's going on, who have bothered to post on this thread.

"The problem with Muslims is Islam." Islam is a "violent totalitarian political system disguised as a religion."

Muhammad was not a spiritual teacher. He was a politician and military leader who ruled by fear.

It is against Islamic law to criticize Muhammad or his Qu'ran (I use Karen Armstrong's spelling here).

It is against Islamic law to have an image of Muhammad (I have seen old Persian paintings of Muhammad with his face veiled or hidden by flames, but these are the exceptions).

It is against Islamic law for a Muslim to leave Islam.

Muhammad wanted nothing less than the conquest & conversion of ALL the world to Islam.

Muhammad was a mass murderer and a pedophile.

Muhammad is considered to be a role model for Muslims.

With the kind of "politically correct" ignorance displayed on this thread, not only is Europe in danger, but all of Western Civilization.

The Europeans have allowed millions upon millions of Muslims into their countries, and they will eventually out-breed the native Europeans.

What you've experienced firsthand is only a foretaste of something that will only grow worse.

originally posted by: seentoomuch

originally posted by: Seamrog

originally posted by: seentoomuch

The police do not respond like they do here in the USA.

While I was getting bandaged, one of my friends was trying to ring up the police - to be politely told by the nurses that 'they would not come for a street scuffle.'

Yeah, that's pretty much what my French neighbors told us too. Imho, it is the tourism trade that doesn't want this known. If they were on top of things they would mark the metro maps with red X's to let us know where is not a good place to stop at.

Thanks for stepping forward on the truth of the matter, hope more members join in,

STM

So glad you're sharing your firsthand experiences here.

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
Thank god some people are coming forward with personal experiences, on an old topic I had years ago there were many that spoke out.

Same thing I was thinking. You put out some good posts here, but closed minds are impervious to facts, so it's not likely they had much of an impact with most on this thread.

Here is my old topic from 2010, that might shine some light in the subject

Is Sweden is being destroyed ?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Sweden has imploded and there is nothing we can do about it until the next election. The crime and violence is out of control braking European records and the police resources are being cut back.

There is a low level civil war ongoing that is affecting hundreds of communities. All of them have a large number of recent immigrants that came from north africa, arab and muslim countries. Most of them them have no understanding or tolerance for western cultures.

Most of them have no basic understanding of local rules, traditions or culture cannot read or write, have never seen or used a bicycle, elevator, or thrashshute. In addition to this they have paid a large sum of money to be smuggled into sweden and be able to live on the social welfare system.

The social system is collapsing under the pressures from the hundreds of thousands of immigrants that like a tsunami flooded our country in only 20 years. The effect is noticed in every part of the country, crime and the fear of violent crime is present everywhere. Social services are reduced and slipping away as asylumseekers get the best service before the swedes. The welfare offices are delaying all payments for weeks and months since they run out of cash.

Swedes are no longer tolerating the disaster that our politicians have forced upon us. The fastest growing political parties are those who want to end the insane policies of radical extremist massimmigration that ultimately in the very near future will result in swedes becoming a minority.

An example of the disaster is Trollhättan, Kronogården. Klockaregården is a carehome for elderly. Its surrounded by armed violent immigrant gangs, they shoot at the home, caregivers and elderly fear for their life but nobody will help them.

2010

this is nothing new

originally posted by: AuranVector

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
Thank god some people are coming forward with personal experiences, on an old topic I had years ago there were many that spoke out.

Same thing I was thinking. You put out some good posts here, but closed minds are impervious to facts, so it's not likely they had much of an impact with most on this thread.

I have to wonder what motives them.

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
Here is my old topic from 2010, that might shine some light in the subject

Is Sweden is being destroyed ?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Sweden has imploded and there is nothing we can do about it until the next election. The crime and violence is out of control braking European records and the police resources are being cut back.

There is a low level civil war ongoing that is affecting hundreds of communities. All of them have a large number of recent immigrants that came from north africa, arab and muslim countries. Most of them them have no understanding or tolerance for western cultures.

Most of them have no basic understanding of local rules, traditions or culture cannot read or write, have never seen or used a bicycle, elevator, or thrashshute. In addition to this they have paid a large sum of money to be smuggled into sweden and be able to live on the social welfare system.

The social system is collapsing under the pressures from the hundreds of thousands of immigrants that like a tsunami flooded our country in only 20 years. The effect is noticed in every part of the country, crime and the fear of violent crime is present everywhere. Social services are reduced and slipping away as asylumseekers get the best service before the swedes. The welfare offices are delaying all payments for weeks and months since they run out of cash.

Swedes are no longer tolerating the disaster that our politicians have forced upon us. The fastest growing political parties are those who want to end the insane policies of radical extremist massimmigration that ultimately in the very near future will result in swedes becoming a minority.

An example of the disaster is Trollhättan, Kronogården. Klockaregården is a carehome for elderly. Its surrounded by armed violent immigrant gangs, they shoot at the home, caregivers and elderly fear for their life but nobody will help them.

2010

this is nothing new

Thanks for the link, Stormdancer, I've subscribed. Yes, this problem started decades ago and has gotten steadily worse. It's nauseating and infuriating.

originally posted by: Stormdancer777

originally posted by: AuranVector

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
Thank god some people are coming forward with personal experiences, on an old topic I had years ago there were many that spoke out.

Same thing I was thinking. You put out some good posts here, but closed minds are impervious to facts, so it's not likely they had much of an impact with most on this thread.

I have to wonder what motives them.

Some may be Disinfo. But seriously, I think most unthinkingly spout whatever the Liberal Left spout.

I remember Anderson Cooper reporting from Cairo, saying that it was well-known that the Far Left is allied with Radical Islam. This was a few years ago.

It's clear they have never bothered to take a closer look at Muhammad or his Qu'ran. Either that or they don't understand what they're reading.

I am going to speak up and say what I think.

If there is truly a silent Islamic invasion through immigration, assisted by people inside of government, wanting to silence anyone trying to expose this would be of utmost importance..


A modern day Trojan horse.

So sorry all the liberals and progressives have aligned themselves with the most oppressive of ideologies.

Now you will reap the whirlwind.

Lift the veil.

a reply to: Stormdancer777

That seems unlikely. Such a thing would require a singular ideology among all Muslims. Except that isn't the case. We all already know there is a deep divide between Sunni's and Shiites, so first they'll have to overcome that. Then also keep in mind that not all these terrorist organizations have the same desires and goals as well. Someone radicalized in for one group isn't going to fight for the same things as someone radicalized for another group. But I guess it is easier to just pretend they are all just one ideology of Muslim and not religiously diverse like Judaism or Christianity.

a reply to: Stormdancer777

The OP is misleading as well. Steve Emerson is NOT a Fox anchor or part of the Fox staff.

Emerson was invited on to the Jan 10 “Justice with Judge Jeanine" program as a "terrorism analyst."

He was invited to speak about the no-go zones:

“They’re sort of amorphous, they’re not contiguous necessarily, but they’re sort of safe havens. And they’re places where the governments, like France, Britain, Sweden, Germany — they don’t exercise any sovereignty so you basically have zones where Sharia courts are set up, where Muslim density is very intense, where police don’t go in.”

Then Emerson made the over-kill statement:

“There are actual cities like Birmingham that are totally Muslim, where non-Muslims just simply don’t go in,” he said.

Pirro's apology:

“Last week on this program,” said Pirro, “a guest made a serious factual error that we wrongly let stand unchallenged and uncorrected. The guest asserted that the city of Birmingham, England, is totally Muslim and that it is a place where non-Muslims don’t go . Both are incorrect.”

2011 census data: 22 percent of the Birmingham, England's population is self-identified as Muslim.

New Flash: ALL corporate media outlets have agendas. They tell us what they want us to know.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

a reply to: AuranVector

Thank you AV, that is how I understand it

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
I am going to speak up and say what I think.

If there is truly a silent Islamic invasion through immigration, assisted by people inside of government, wanting to silence anyone trying to expose this would be of utmost importance..


A modern day Trojan horse.

So sorry all the liberals and progressives have aligned themselves with the most oppressive of ideologies.

Now you will reap the whirlwind.

Lift the veil.

It's so ironic. The liberals & progressives are so aggressive about promoting the rights of women & Gays, but will not publicly speak out against the single most oppressive ideology in the world against women & Gays: Islam.

originally posted by: AuranVector

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
I am going to speak up and say what I think.

If there is truly a silent Islamic invasion through immigration, assisted by people inside of government, wanting to silence anyone trying to expose this would be of utmost importance..


A modern day Trojan horse.

So sorry all the liberals and progressives have aligned themselves with the most oppressive of ideologies.

Now you will reap the whirlwind.

Lift the veil.

It's so ironic. The liberals & progressives are so aggressive about promoting the rights of women & Gays, but will not publicly speak out against the single most oppressive ideology in the world against women & Gays: Islam.

Crazy yes?

I have warned them for years, everything they fought for will be erased.

My god some of you sound like a bunch of scared children afraid of your own shadows!! Why do Religious Conservatives always make some topics so damn dramatic??

Ok, so you got beat up and harassed in a bad neighborhood so what?? How is that different than any other city here in the US?? Because they follow Islam??? Does that even make any difference??? There are neighborhoods everywhere in every city big and small that you don't walk around alone at night. It doesn't make any difference if the thugs are Muslim, Catholic, Atheist, Crypts, Bloods, Skin Heads, etc. they are going to thrash you all the same so what difference does their Ideology have to do with it???

Islam is the current flavor of the month to demonize. It will pass and a year from now there will be some other group to watch out for. In the past it's been the Communists, or Socialists, or Asian, or KKK. Then we had a spurt of Crazy Radical Christians. All have come and gone in the media and yet some factions of them are still out there doing what they do only mostly in the shadows than out in the open.

They're called gangs and they've been around forever. They always seem to different in their Ideology but they're all still just gangs of A-Holes. From Gang Bangers to Muslims Militants to Crazy Christians to your average run of the mill douche bags who are looking for trouble. They are products of Ignorance, Poverty, Class Warfare, etc. But they are everywhere and there is nothing special or unique about Muslims doing it any more than the KKK or Gang Bangers were unique. They all just have their moment in the sun.

Freaking out about it isn't going to help. It's the same as any other group that has bad wiring and bad ideas. They aren't the first and they won't be the last. There are always places that are rougher than other where the cops take a bit longer. Hell there are places in LA that cops don't go into either without SWAT because of the communities and gang control but it's nothing new.

a reply to: AuranVector

I am totally forgiving of a mistake or having a so called expert miss speak but they are a damn 24hr news station I am sure they have people who can fact check. The original person making the claim is no big deal but what is a big deal is how they ran with it and parroted it from show to show even after people had written into FOX telling them that was BS.

Sure they have an agenda all of them do but when they flat out lie repeatedly it becomes a problem.

If you don't feel like watching the 5 minutes worth go to the 3 minute 30 second mark.



If the president does a speech they can spend 2 to 3 days fact checking and analyzing it yet for their own shows even when it's pointed out they got it wrong they just keep piling it on building BS mountain to the stars.

Bobby Jindal: US Will Have Its Own 'No-Go Zones' Unless We Take This Seriously

talkingpointsmemo.com...

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) on Wednesday stood behind his declaration that European cities have Muslim "no-go zones" and went on to say that if the U.S. wasn't careful, it would be seeing its own "no-go zones" soon.

Cavuto tried to get him to recant, Jindal would not, let's see if they eventually get to him.

Cavuto then asked whether he'd take anything back.

"Absolutely not," Jindal said.

a reply to: mOjOm

Are you speaking from experience of living in Paris? If you have never lived in Paris you have no platform for your opinion. Your input is useless to this discussion.

STM

originally posted by: seentoomuch
a reply to: mOjOm

Are you speaking from experience of living in Paris? If you have never lived in Paris you have no platform for your opinion. Your input is useless to this discussion.

STM

No, I have never been to Paris but it's doesn't matter because I'm not talking about Paris or anywhere specifically. The same thing is happening EVERYWHERE and it's not new or unique just because it's Muslims doing it. You act like what happened to you is some kind of special event as if the same kind of thing isn't happening in every city daily. Who cares if they are Muslim or Satanists or Atheists or Christians or Gang Bangers or Mexican Cartel or Asian Mob??? It's nothing new or different just because it's some Muslims doing it. It's no different than when everyone was freaking out about Street Gangs a few years back, or the KKK years ago, or any other group. They all have Radicals from Christians or Scientologists to Mormons to Roller Derby Gangs. (Roller Derby might be stretching it...)

It's not special or any more dangerous than any other just because they have Islam as the Ideology. They all have their twisted violent versions of Ideology and they all have the same end goals with the same methods of how to achieve them and like the rest they will fail once they have their 15 min. of fame. You're not being rational about it at all.

a reply to: mOjOm

I lived there, it was not common gang violence. You are just assuming which is worthless to this discussion.

STM