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originally posted by: pl3bscheese
originally posted by: Jamie1
Just wondering if somebody thinks it's cool to take money from other people for themselves, where do you draw the line?
I don't think it's "cool", but it's also not "cool" to force the use of financial tools which benefit your class and harm others.
The line is drawn with the pen in law, and that changes through the years. This should be obvious, is it not?
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: diggindirt
I never believed it was anyone else's responsibility to educate me or my children. But that doesn't mean that I and they didn't take the scholarships and grants made available---just as we took the tax breaks available. However, taking advantage of those things means taking the time and making the effort to discover what is there and working to be deserving of those perks.
And later, you said: dust themselves off.....
I'm fully aware that there are times when hard working folks fall on hard times. But those folks dust themselves off, adjust their lives and go on.
Bah.
Do you know that when taxes were HIGH, the country did better? No. You are too worried about 'you' and 'yours'.
Exactly how much do you REALLY NEED?
originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: diggindirt
Do you comprehend that you've answered your own question in your post?
Not sure why I'd bother to add anything at this point.
You do know you've done this, correct?
here is the real swindle when it comes to Paying your fair share of Tax Myth
i rake in $ 13,000 yr
i pay out $ 1,060 yr in health care premiums to Medicare
i pay out $ 4,502 yr in property taxes
i pay out $ 120 yr in vehicle taxes (every other year it rises by $20 then reverts down $20 )
which leaves me with $ 7,180 to buy food/goods/services that are subject to another pay out in taxes
of approx. $ 502 in sales taxes paid...
so i fork over to the Govt.$ 1,060+4,502+120+502(+) = $ 6,184.oo
of my modest $13,000. fixed income--> OR some 47.5% of SS$ benefits
leaving me with only $ 6,816,oo to sustain my quality of life expenses
SINCE SS taxes combined employee & employer rate is only 12.4%...
that is what i feel is fair
SO, i am going to claim a TAX CREDIT for the difference between the
$ 6,184. i already paid and the reasonable TAX DUE of 12.4%
which is: 12.4% of $13,000 = $ 1,612
this year i file w/tax credits for excessive taxes withheld : $ 4,572.oo REFUND DUE
I have no idea what point you are attempting to make here.
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: diggindirt
I have no idea what point you are attempting to make here.
You don't? Okay, I'll make a really simple analogy for you.
Say a person staggers into your yard and collapses. You go out to see what it is that ails them.
They tell you that they are starving.
And you say, "well, I have 500 10-pound bags of potatoes in my kitchen." (You are also not having a party, not a restaurateur, not a potato farmer, and not in the business of selling potatoes. You live by yourself, and no one else depends on your potatoes. You can't possibly eat them all before they go bad.)
After a pause, the person gasps out, " My children are still at home, and they are too weak to move."
You look at them, puzzled because you can't see their point. "Well," you say, "what does that have to do with me?"
"I need just five potatoes to save my children and myself."
And you say, "I don't know what your problem is, but those are my potatoes." And then you turn around and walk back toward the house, and over your shoulder you shout, "GET OFF MY LAWN."
You walk passed an idiot shouting nonsense you restrain your violent urges because intelligence, knowledge reminds you
there is a price to freedom of speech.
And do you know who we depend on for extra financial help when the need is as great as it is today? Who do you think we ask when the free clinic needs an extra $50k? It is the "filthy rich" we go to. And it is "filthy rich" who keep the clinic going
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: diggindirt
And do you know who we depend on for extra financial help when the need is as great as it is today? Who do you think we ask when the free clinic needs an extra $50k? It is the "filthy rich" we go to. And it is "filthy rich" who keep the clinic going
LOL!!!
Dude. Don't even start with me. I am a social worker. I know all about 'grant-writing' and 'fund-raisers' and kissing the asses of the super rich, and the expensive 'parties' that non-profits throw. .....
Don't. Even. Start.