Benefits of a One world Government

originally posted by: threeeyesopen
a reply to: payta

IMO the only being fit to rule over us would be a form of artificial intelligence, devoid of emotions (artificial or not)..it would rule simply through cold hard logic. Our biggest problem however would be if for instance it chose to rid the planet of us to save itself or the planet itself by reasoning that we are the greatest threat of all.

I agree 100%. An AI leadership would be the only way to ensure justice and equality throughout the planet. Everywhere there is poverty, there is somebody benefiting from that poverty. Human greed and selfish ambition is what prevents us from living in harmony. We put systems in place (like constitutions) that serve us in wonderful ways but are still exploitable.

As far as them eradicating us, I don't see that as an issue. Anybody with logic can see that a common lifting of the human condition as well as an assisted evolution would benefit everybody, including an AI. It may push humanity towards becoming more like itself but ridding the planet of any species at all has a negative impact on the entire concept of forward movement.

An automated government with fail-safes in place is inevitable.

a reply to: Cuervo

A.I would make sure it could establish a network with every person in order to achieve those goals. We would become a hive mind. Controlled by the A.I

There will be no individuality. Only The Necrons.

Everyone gets to vote. Absolute power for the people. Technology isn't going to be very kind to the population. It'll make everything easier at the expense of work for most. We can allot credits per person. This would be enough to live. If you want your toys you'll have to donate your time to the betterment of the human condition. Without constrains the human condition will evolve. Do you want to be mediocre or make a difference? With 7+ billion people, that's a lot of hands. I would require a few hours a week working to keep it up and running for all people over the age of 18. You will be in a field you have the aptitude in. If you want extra, you put in more time. If you want to innovate. Take the time to do so. You write up a business plan of some sort to submit in a region for review. If it merits the resources, you will be funded. There will still be laws to abide by. Hey, it's only the start of an outline. Someone with a better imagination and vision than I can flesh it out.

The flip side is that you will not be wasting resources like we have for so long. You'll live but not in excess. There are 7+ billion people to think about. You can't live in excess because there's not enough resources to do so. We'll innovate to make the human condition better with less waste. There's things that will need to be addressed. Health care, transportation, and housing to name a few. If we all had a stake in humanity, we might rise to become what we were meant to be.

One can dream can't they?

a reply to: payta

Exactly which planet do you live on BTW??? Because here on earth anytime there is a single power of any kind that controls more than just itself it leads to tyranny, despotism and brutality on a massive scale. Then there's the down side!!!

Instead of Hobbes I suggest reading Locke instead. They both have convincing arguments but at least Locke's view is one that is hopeful of humanity's nature being something other than brutal beasts in need of control by other brutal beasts.

Although, Locke could very well be incorrect in his assumption of Humanity.

My own view observing the pressures for formation of a world gov doesn't really have much to do with bringing order to places like Africa and Middle east, I mean those places have always been in fighting its just that now with social media we get to see it every day. My view is the push is on because behind the scenes has been discovered an energy source and new area of science which literally could transform everything, from the transport we use to how we see our origins and fitting into this cosmos.

This energy source used wrongly however also has the ability to wreak incredible destruction. The world gov therefore is the control system required to roll out this technology, as it provides a safe forum where it can be controlled at all levels, without hinderence of borders or radical groups as those things wont be allowed to exist under a world gov.

originally posted by: TrueAmerican
The further away a government gets from the governed, both geographically and mentally, the worse off the governed will be. Government works best at the closest possible location to the governed (even though most of the time it still sucks). This way the people's immediate needs are (supposedly) met.

How can you expect some idiot in another country to understand the local needs of a population? They THINK they can, but they CAN'T. They WANT to control you for the sheer power, but they CAN'T address your concerns. You will be forgotten.

ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT IS SOMETHING WE MUST AVOID AT ALL COSTS.

Ron Paul understands these concepts, and has warned us repeatedly of the consequences. All you have to do is listen and GET IT. There are no benefits whatsoever to a one world government, only detriment. The local needs of the people are barely, and rarely, addressed as it is now. How do you think they would fare under some far removed world government who gives no crap at all?

VERY, VERY BAD IDEA.

At first glance you have a point (possibly still do : ), however distances don't really matter anymore in a world where everything is globally "connected", literally. We can be anywhere in a few hours, and people in Afghanistan don't really live in caves, but instead use TWITTER and inform the world when Bin Laden was captured..the minute it HAPPENED.

We are more global than ever and we have the means for communication, the only thing SEPARATING us is artificial things like nations, borders, etc.etc... stuff a "one world government" could actually help eliminate for a better world.

originally posted by: AthlonSavage


My own view observing the pressures for formation of a world gov doesn't really have much to do with bringing order to places like Africa and Middle east, I mean those places have always been in fighting its just that now with social media we get to see it every day. My view is the push is on because behind the scenes has been discovered an energy source and new area of science which literally could transform everything, from the transport we use to how we see our origins and fitting into this cosmos.

This energy source used wrongly however also has the ability to wreak incredible destruction. The world gov therefore is the control system required to roll out this technology, as it provides a safe forum where it can be controlled at all levels, without hinderence of borders or radical groups as those things wont be allowed to exist under a world gov.

I keep coming to that conclusion also. They already have Africom on the table for Africa. It's logical. It's what's best for humanity. The price is going to be steep. Will we lose our humanity while trying to bring in this utopia? That is yet to be seen.

I feel the need to point out that all of our "local" national governments currently report back to the owners of their respective central banks for marching orders.

You want a one-world government? You already have it... you just don't know who runs it, or what their goals are.

I'll tell you this, though- your life, your freedom, and your happiness don't mean anything to those people.

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: payta

Because here on earth anytime there is a single power of any kind that controls more than just itself it leads to tyranny, despotism and brutality on a massive scale.

We have 196 different nations today on this planet and 196 different governments.

Ironically, even with this "amazing" diversity of nations, we DO HAVE "tyranny, despotism and brutality on a massive scale".
Which proves that "many governments" is obviously not the solution as you assume.

Heck, you can have many small micro communities, each only 20-50 people large and sadists and tyrants ruling them. Nr. of governments and size DOES NOT MATTER, you can have tyranny in a large, one world gvt and in a world with 200 governments.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: payta

The way I see it is a one world government would be a good idea for those in control of it and the friends of those in control , look at the corruption rife in countries now and multiply it several fold , I see no real benefit for the ordinary person.

Obviously this is very far-fetched, but let's just fantasy play:

ONE world government would mean the collapse of different systems, there would not be "capitalism" or "communism" or "socialism" anymore, means nations don't need to spend TRILLIONS on DEFENSE to defend against the lie there is "another system which is threatening our system".

I am not saying that ALL reasons for conflicts will be gone (of course they won't, people will still 'belong' to the one or the other ethnical group or religion and use this as a reason to kill)....but you would be very, very surprised how the sudden disappearance of governments (China, US, Korea, Russia, Europe) .. would benefit you. For starters, people could spend money on positive things rather than spending 75% on military. And believe me, it WOULD benefit you, any many others. We would likely all of a sudden swim in unimaginable wealth.

DO YOU REALIZE that on this planet you cannot even go somewhere else if you want to, because there are borders and "different nations"? You cannot even fricking ENTER another country without "permission" and papers, let alone live there because you would just like to.
You don't think this is odd there are artificial borders which make it literally impossible to just travel and go to, say, South America, the US, Europe, Australia..just like that? You don't think this is odd that this is impossible respective requires major efforts?

a reply to: NoRulesAllowed

Yes, but with many different "Groups" there is a chance that if yours becomes something horrible you might escape it for a better one that is more suited to you. An important element of Freedom is Choice. The ability to have and make choices allows for Freedom. Freedom of Mobility. Freedom of Choosing a Future of your liking. There is no Freedom of Choice with only One choice. You get what you get and that's it.

Actually it's not Many Governments that I am promoting exactly. Governments are however a necessary evil until we learn to act correctly without being forced to do so. But IMO, many small Governments allow more Freedom of Choice than One all Powerful one. One is not a number of movement or change or motion. It is stagnant and still. Unmoving and Unchanging. That is not a Living System. That is a System which is at rest or paralyzed or Dead.

originally posted by: NoRulesAllowed
ONE world government would mean the collapse of different systems, there would not be "capitalism" or "communism" or "socialism" anymore, means nations don't need to spend TRILLIONS on DEFENSE to defend against the lie there is "another system which is threatening our system".

But you don't need a OWG to do that. You even said it yourself. It's a LIE. We spend Trillions on Defense because we are being Lied to by those who profit from death and destruction.

DO YOU REALIZE that on this planet you cannot even go somewhere else if you want to, because there are borders and "different nations"? You cannot even fricking ENTER another country without "permission" and papers, let alone live there because you would just like to.
You don't think this is odd there are artificial borders which make it literally impossible to just travel and go to, say, South America, the US, Europe, Australia..just like that? You don't think this is odd that this is impossible respective requires major efforts?

Yeah, it's messed up. People are f*cked up and we create f*cked up systems. I agree that we should be able to travel freely without artificial borders and all that. We could actually and it isn't conceptual Nation States that block that. It's people being A-Holes and afraid of things that are different. We could travel freely to different nations with different rules if we wanted to and that would also be the whole point of travel anyway. To experience something different than your home. Why go anywhere if it's all the same anyway. Our problem is not being able to respect the way others may want to live because it's different than our own way.

I don’t really know what are the plans of the TPTB, but couldn’t they seek to do this too?
a reply to: payta

Their plan is to reduce the pop to 1/2 billion people world wide. So looking for a benevalnat TPTB I don't think it will happen.

originally posted by: [post=18891742]payta[/post.

We could see this new form of global authority as a tool to better the world. Just like a Federal Government sees the wealth is equally distributed between the states or provinces that form a country, a OWG could seek to do the same globally. Erase borders, end racism, xenophobia, territorial disputes, etc.

PS. Sorry for any grammar mistakes, not a native speaker.

No need to apologize for grammar! You're writing is great!

If I go out and pick apples all day, and pick 50 apples, why should my lazy neighbor who only picked 10 apples get the same as me?

Now extrapolate that to countries.

Sorry. Global socialism is not the answer.... unless the question is, "What can we do to totally F*#( up the world?"

originally posted by: Jamie1

No need to apologize for grammar! You're writing is great!

If I go out and pick apples all day, and pick 50 apples, why should my lazy neighbor who only picked 10 apples get the same as me?

Now extrapolate that to countries.

Sorry. Global socialism is not the answer.... unless the question is, "What can we do to totally F*#( up the world?"

I have a question for you. Let's say 20 apples a day is more than enough for you. What do you do with the other 30 you've picked??? Do you keep them and let them go to waste or donate them to someone else who can use them???

Religion, Nations, and Democracy are all out-dated and barbaric systems of control. The advent of technology has forced the need for a Global Scientific Dictatorship. These older systems will become increasingly violent in their death throws, which inevitably will lead to a nuclear war. It won't be complete destruction, but it will garner support for the necessary one world government.

Pfffth .. stuff government of any type .. theyre all bloody useless ..
Not all of us need or want leaders or governments as we are more than capable of thinking for ourselves .. taking care of ourselves and being responsible for our own actions... let there be Anarchy ..

a reply to: mOjOm

Only pick what you need .. beyond that is wasteful ..

originally posted by: Expat888
Pfffth .. stuff government of any type .. theyre all bloody useless ..
Not all of us need or want leaders or governments as we are more than capable of thinking for ourselves .. taking care of ourselves and being responsible for our own actions... let there be Anarchy ..

not real keen on the anarchy but other than that i am in complete agreement.....we the people should be managing our affairs and left to do so i would bet on the people doing a much better job than any government ever could

The only thing worse than people running their own lives is a higher governing power running their lives.