machiavellian interdimensional beings

Just a thought there may be alot of good interdimentional beings out there too. . . .

If you're hearing voices, regardless of what you believe their source to be, you should consider visiting your doctor. Hearing voices speaking to you, that others can't hear, is simply not normal. Every one of us is susceptible to a vast range of mental illnesses, and should one manifest, serious damage mag be prevented or lessrned if it is caught early enough. Worst case scenario is you get a quick checkup and go on with your life, knowing you're healthy....

Well done for tackling this topic OP..

I would agree with other posters,that it sounds like Archonic possession.I have also read that they may pray on people at night,scavenging energy..I also know the two methods that can be used to enhance/absorb cosmic energy,is when you are asleep and meditating..so could this be why they do this when you are asleep?.

Many people also note,how they 'seemingly' have a good nights sleep,but wake up feeling more drained for it..could this also suggest being a victim of energy parasites?

I see you mentioned why the interest in children? Well their energy is purer and more nourishing I would contend, hence why they are targeted.Another thing is,as we age and mature or body accumulates toxins..in the traditional sense and also in the ethereal energetic sense, so apparently this is less desirable for those who ingest blood and quite possibly for these 'parasites'.

It is amazing to think that all that is visible In the universe is 0.005 (if memory serves) of all that is there and of that 0.005 we can only 'see' a small fraction of that, so from what I gather these entities and what we call ghosts,are nearly always present, it's just that we can't detect them with our limited perception/ senses, and I suppose those that are 'sensitive' just have the extra ability to access these realms that are usually out of reach to most people.

Great thread Star n Flag!

originally posted by: SanFrancisco1956
I also wanted to mention that I know someone who does clearings and he is coming across more and more recently situations similar to mine, where people think they have a ghost problem but it's actually an alien, ET or inter-dimensional being instead. And much to the surprise if the homeowner.

I am a trained demonologist...having been trained by others and by the church. I thought you might find this interesting:

First there are no degrees by any university that offers a degree in demonology. It is a practice/training that the Vatican offers its priests and a select few outsiders. However these outsiders must show that they have the authority from Christ to expel and control demon activity and this means attending a couple of demonic possessions while under supervision of a demonologist or exorcist and this is before any training starts. The closest degree offered in state and federal universities would be in mental health. Plus there is training offered by a select few demonologist with 20 plus years of experience who are willing to take a "few" under their wing and show them what to expect and when and where to call in an expert (exorcist).

Clearing a house of negativity with sage is pagan and it does not work, neither will incense unless it is blessed. People who speak of white sage or any other type of sage speak of pagan beliefs practice by pagan cult rituals. There is no such thing as white magic and black magic. It is all magic and it is being directed by one realm.

Anyone who speaks of "clearing" a house of negativity does not know what they are doing.... maybe they read a book or two, maybe a little research on the internet but that is about as much as they know. I know this "clearing" thing has become a "fad"... "trendy thing" for those who seek attention but I warn everyone that it is no joke. One day will come when they are "clearing" a house when they will be confronted with a powerful entity or better yet......numerous entities. They seldom travel alone.... and they will be helpless and only with God's grace will they get out alive... alive but not with peace.

I know of a few people who have gotten into this field of work "for kicks" or to search out the supernatural or to prove of God's or Satan's existence and once they found what they were seeking they ended up either dead or in a mental institution for the insane or in prison..... if they were lucky.

There are as many types of negative entities as their are species on this planet......yep that many and some are very very easy to remove...simply say BOO and they run, there are others that are harder and put up a fight and then there are those that are powerful and can kill you very easy. I showed three types and two of them are very dangerous so I would say 66% chance you will be confronted with something that you would have wished you never would have met and when it is over it will change you forever.

The species you speak of come from the fairies family......very wicked and very powerful. Most of the time entities are interested in an individual and not the home which can easily confuse people and in your case it is not the home but you that they are interested in.

One last word, Shamans, voodoo prieists, some Wiccans, Witch doctors (just to name a few) are very powerful and are known in the underworld. SOMETIMES they can bring peace into your lives, SOMETIMES they bring healings, love and prosperity but there is a price and it costs more than money and often it is only temporary.....months a few years (20 years at the most). My advice is to stay away from these people and stop all communication with them immediately.

And to those who have had a TRUE experience? There is your proof of God and his existence.

Good luck.

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
If you're hearing voices, regardless of what you believe their source to be, you should consider visiting your doctor. Hearing voices speaking to you, that others can't hear, is simply not normal. Every one of us is susceptible to a vast range of mental illnesses, and should one manifest, serious damage mag be prevented or lessrned if it is caught early enough. Worst case scenario is you get a quick checkup and go on with your life, knowing you're healthy....

Very good advice and I always recommend this as a first to do. It is not normal and there can be a medical diagnose for the issue which can be cleared up with medication BUT when all medication and therapy does not work... then the problem is no longer a mental or physical issue but a spiritual one and it is at this point the individual no longer advances in mental health but stays stagnate which still puzzles the mental health specialists today because many do not take man's spirit into consideration as possibly being part of the condition/sickness.

I find your response very interesting because someone well versed and knowledgeable about ufology, Paranormal, you name it said almost the same thing. They are two dimensional beings who typically live underground because they have no body or protection from the sun. One reason why they hide in dark places in a house, like a crawl space or only come out at night. He said they are lazy as ship because they have the knowledge to make their own food source but it's easier to find a human who has no clue what is going in, sometimes for years.

All I can say is I'm glad, when I did a little ghost investigation a while back, that I bought a small parabolic microphone and at the time I didn't even know why I bought it. I use it now because I can hear them and I know they can see me listening but I don't care. And they are coming out all the time not just when I'm sleeping. They know I know what's going on and they use to worry about that. One would say to the other I think SF knows what's going on. I was getting closer and closer to finding the truth out.
a reply to: AthlonSavage

Been there and done that already. Don't go there because no one is going to call me crazy or nuts, no doctors found that and so I won't hear it.
a reply to: DeathSlayer

a reply to: DeathSlayer
What can you tell us about fairies? Where do they come from? I have never heard they are wicked and evil, they can be nasty if you cross them while out in your nature walk but I've never heard of faeries in a subdivision. Can you explain?

I am not interested in shamanism at all but I will listen to what they have to say. Just as I am not interested in Demonology either but I will listen to what one has to say. I agree with you on the clearings, to me it is a bunch of hocus pocus that has never worked for me. But I wouldn't write it off because it's pagan. There are a lot of pagan rituals still practiced today.

I would like to direct you to my latest thread.

You may find it very interesting.

David Morrow - Monarch Project

originally posted by: SanFrancisco1956
Been there and done that already. Don't go there because no one is going to call me crazy or nuts, no doctors found that and so I won't hear it.
a reply to: DeathSlayer

No one is calling you crazy but almost two thirds of the people who contact me with stories of evil attacks are either mentally impaired, looking for attention, or misinformed and experiences can be explained and shown to be not evil.

I have so often heard this from reputable exorcists and other demonologists and one of the differences between a good one and a con artist is how the begining relationship starts between the inflicted and the demonologist. We do not charge for our services so we don't like wasting our time on those that are delusional.

A good demonologist or exorcist would not even see you prior to you seeing your doctor for testing and also after seeing a physciatrist. Those who are inflicted, obsessed or possessed usually have already spent years with various medical professionals before they land on our doorstep.

If you are clairaudeient you can hear voices, some people think instantly it must be mental illness. I have been checked out, I am okay. I can hear things others can't, might make me different but does not make me crazy. I understand your post but I was wAiting for the mental illness post to come, they always do on here.
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: EndOfDays77
Well done for tackling this topic OP..
--thank you, it hasn't been that easy



Many people also note,how they 'seemingly' have a good nights sleep,but wake up feeling more drained for it..could this also suggest being a victim of energy parasites?

---and this is what I thought initially until I began seeing blood left behind.

It is amazing to think that all that is visible In the universe is 0.005 (if memory serves) of all that is there and of that 0.005 we can only 'see' a small fraction of that, so from what I gather these entities and what we call ghosts,are nearly always present, it's just that we can't detect them with our limited perception/ senses, and I suppose those that are 'sensitive' just have the extra ability to access these realms that are usually out of reach to most people.

---and because you have these sensitivities, you are labeled odd or weird or told you have mental issues. It is why I rarely mention anything about them and wish I never had on this forum.

Great thread Star n Flag!
THANK YOU!

I also wanted to add that this person said these beings have been here for thousands and thousands of years, go back to the times of Atlantic and before .a reply to: SanFrancisco1956

I haven't read the entire thread yet, but wonder if you mean "Enochian" for "Machiavellian?"

Enochian derives from John Dee's (Elizabeth's seer) language of Angels via Enoch in the Bible...to some, demons... add whatever label one wishes... whatever the label attached to usually unseen beings seemingly made of energy, or with non standard physical bodies... they seem to exist. I only say seem because it's not definite what they are and how they exist... if independent of us, or a mentally constructed spin-off... dunno.. but the little bastards do pop up.

We just don't know enough... or rather, have no way to definitively measure and ID these things... and there might be many different species and forms or just one... again, dunno.

But now to read the rest, as this is interesting to me... having had some possible experiences with these buggers... oh and water has always been associated with ghosts and supernatural creatures.. .as in can't cross oceans or running streams, etc.

ETA some decent views and advice... and as far as Catholic Church and Demonology/exorcism , that is one view with a long pedigree and I wish I could be so sure of that cosmology... and if the buggers believe in that religion, then it likely works to shoo them off quite well. I wish I could be so sure... the only thing I'm sure of is we know nearly nothing. But good, strong, loving thoughts DO seem to shoo them away if pesty... wish I knew why for sure.

originally posted by: Baddogma loving thoughts DO seem to shoo them away if pesty... wish I knew why for sure.

Because they feed on negativity and fear.
Love is no use to them.
Being scared feeds them, stand tall in their presence, and have the faith that God will be your shield.

Have you only had one experience?
Cheers
SF

a reply to: sanitizedinfo

I tried the loving thoughts and all it did was draw them closer to me, thinking I was their friend and perhaps in their minds a willing participant which was furthest from the truth as you can get. I wanted them out of my house, out if my life, I offered to help them pass over and they wanted to stay where they are. I was told they have no souls so of course they would not be interested in passing over.

a reply to: OneManArmy

Wow that was one interesting video. I believe the guy, no question. And it's scary that this has gotten to such a huge expanse in the world. And his child hood was so horrible, you have to be tough to go they what this guy has and still be able to talk and be a human being and a good whistler blower. The stuff that goes on in this world that people don't know about blows my mind. And for some reason I could relate to his ET experiences I don't know why but it hit a funny bone as they say but without knowing why. How did you find this video? I could find nothing about this person or this investigation on line. Do you have links to other info about this person and what the military in the UK gave done to people?
Thanks for the video link!
Cheers
SF

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a reply to: OneManArmy

If it is true that some species of bodiless beings feed on negativity and fear, then this world would indeed be a smorgasbord... IF it's true.

I've had some very, very odd experiences and am open to these things' existence... I'm just not sure of origin, motives, or their independent reality.

I also don't crap on others' beliefs, especially if it is something as innocuous as love or belief in a loving higher power... I just have this niggling intuition that there's more to it than two teams and an eons old grudge, is all... but dogma and mental illness of many stripes can play into it, too... so sorting it out, even if one of these things read me it's journal and let me take a sample of it's energy body, is problematic.

But that's me... but I'll leave it with one thought... IF these things that feed on negativity exist, than how paranoid and negative would be the thoughts of one who "believes" in them? Yummy. Paradox.

originally posted by: Baddogma
a reply to: OneManArmy

If it is true that some species of bodiless beings feed on negativity and fear, then this world would indeed be a smorgasbord... IF it's true.

I've had some very, very odd experiences and am open to these things' existence... I'm just not sure of origin, motives, or their independent reality.

Hi Dogma (can I call you Dogma? )

I've been following John Lash for a while - not saying I believe everything he says, but at the very least he's got an interesting interpretation of the Nag Hammadi Gnostic writings; which might be relevant to what you said above and to this thread...

Here's two linkies, if anyone's interrested:

John Lash's Site (his opinions on the Gnostics - well mostly)
Collection of articles on Archons

Like I said (or intended to) - always see everything from a skeptic's perspective; but there definitely is something going on out there and we'd be fools not to consider possibilities

-Strange