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originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: thesmokingman
We haven't had much to agree on before but I'm with you. A couple if times I've said freedom of speech comes with responsibility. Responses? Crickets.
Something is inherently wrong and I don't know what it is. Arrogance?
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: stargatetravels
And just because you say something doesn't mean you should have to live in fear of losing everything because you said it, either.
originally posted by: intrepid
Did the person ask for your opinion on their weight or did you share it because you aimed to offend?
And if the recipient has poor self esteem? Mental problems? A history of abuse? It's NOT "how they take it."
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: stargatetravels
And just because you say something doesn't mean you should have to live in fear of losing everything because you said it, either.
originally posted by: thesmokingman
but we do have freedom of speech, so its all good.
originally posted by: intrepid
And sometimes it leads to suicide. How can one decide?
originally posted by: deadeyedick
Honestly if it was wbc instead of some cartooning characters would people care or would they say they deserve it.
The thing has always been that yes we are somewhat free from the law to say things but we still have to answer to humanity.
originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: eletheia
"What I came away with is..."
Right, you. People are different. You don't know what other's issues are. At what point of illness they have.
originally posted by: rickymouse
We have freedom of speech but we also have personal responsibility not to abuse it. If too many people start abusing it this right can start to disappear. Freedom of speech and right of assembly do not allow us to riot or destroy the property of others that had nothing to do with the situation either. Slandering someone is not covered by our freedom of speech. The judicial system knows that people sometimes do things in the heat of the moment that they would not do if they weren't fired up and does allow lighter penalties for minor first time offenders. Don't push it or you will wind up with freedom of speech and a lot of fines and possibly jail time. Learn to stay civil even when others loose their cool.
Then, as far as the Paris killings. This paper has been posting these "offensive: cartoons for years, and they have also been being threatened for years, including a bombing a few years back. Yet, with their freedom of speech, they continued to release these cartoons, as if they were goading the very people they were offending. However, they have freedom of speech so thats ok, right?
originally posted by: deadeyedick
The real joke is that many that seem to be taking this harder than others have in the past called and wished for violence against wbc.
Honestly if it was wbc instead of some cartooning characters would people care or would they say they deserve it.
The thing has always been that yes we are somewhat free from the law to say things but we still have to answer to humanity.
originally posted by: Scaevola
a reply to: thesmokingman
Then, as far as the Paris killings. This paper has been posting these "offensive: cartoons for years, and they have also been being threatened for years, including a bombing a few years back. Yet, with their freedom of speech, they continued to release these cartoons, as if they were goading the very people they were offending. However, they have freedom of speech so thats ok, right?
But Muslims have been providing these cartoonists with solid reasons to make these cartoons about them, for years.
It's not like they are innocent and not deserving of criticism, be it in the form of satire, or other forms of condemnation.
This attack, if it really went down like it appears, shows that the criticism is completely justified.
This attack, if it really went down like it appears, shows that the criticism is completely justified.
Not really....I mean, I am sure these 3 men do not speak for the entire Muslim religion....