Pussy Riot Protest Video Over Alexei Navalny sentencing

a reply to: Agent_USA_Supporter

Attacking the source thats what you did which is rather ironic.

Last time I checked that is what your supposed to do, or would you rather me attack the poster, and you know a little about attacking the poster don't you?

Apparently to you FOX News, CNN, Westren News outlets and kiev post are the only sources you would rather trust.

Seems you believe that too, as your OP source is a western news media outlet...how ironic.

Why would i even bother? your probably going to either deflect or attack the source as you just did, unless you find worthy to your agenda that is.

You sure do like to blame others of deflecting the topic, but you don't even notice when you do it such as you did above with your western media comment..

And the last time I checked attacking the source is how you weed out the bunk...something that you haven't figured out how to do yet.

This place sadly reminds me of when i was on the Gurdian forum section during the Syrian protests to, you are an shill for Assad if you dare to speak out agaisnt the rebels.

What were you saying about deflecting?

And what exactly does Syria have to do with the topic of your own thread?

Was Pussy Riot filming in Syria with Assad, because if not you took your own thread off topic...outstanding.

a reply to: Agent_USA_Supporter

Oh yes the BBC very reablie. You might as well just post a source from al jazeera while your at it.

You do understand that when you bash Western media, but then use them as a source for a thread you just show your true self.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Agent usa supporter?...
Should be agent russia supporter.
Funny that isn't it.

a reply to: Agent_USA_Supporter

Oh yes the BBC very reablie.

Maybe you should have read the article as it was an interview with a former inmate at the prison where a member of Pussy Riot was being sent.

Svetlana Bakhmina, a former lawyer for the now defunct Yukos oil company jailed in 2006, recalls her time in one of the "tough" penal colonies in Mordovia, south-east of Moscow.

www.bbc.com...

So a female who spent time in a female Russian prison isn't reliable...Care to tell me how that works, and what exactly do you know about womens prisons in Russia because I would love to hear it?

a reply to: boymonkey74

Funny that isn't it.

Can't argue with that.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

I didn't/don't know the specifics of prison life in Russia, sounds terrible. That being said, I'm sure Pussy Riot knows how terrible it is to be in some weird fem-gulag in the middle of nowhere...they knew it before the crimes and still committed them.

My point is that they lost any weight they had, with me, when they put their personal freedom and comfort before their ideals. I'm not saying I would do that, but I don't claim to be anything special...I feel like they do.

originally posted by: Nowyouseeme
a reply to: tsurfer2000h

I didn't/don't know the specifics of prison life in Russia, sounds terrible. That being said, I'm sure Pussy Riot knows how terrible it is to be in some weird fem-gulag in the middle of nowhere...they knew it before the crimes and still committed them.

My point is that they lost any weight they had, with me, when they put their personal freedom and comfort before their ideals. I'm not saying I would do that, but I don't claim to be anything special...I feel like they do.

If I'm remembering correctly, only one member actively tried to reduce her sentence. The others were pretty stoic, accepted the judgement handed down and did their time. Now, there WAS a social movement to try to free them, but I don't blame the members themselves for that movement.

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

I just thought that the one standing up was the spokesperson for the group, not that she was out on her own trying to get out of it and the others were taking it as it came.

I guess you are right though, I can't blame Pussy Riot that it became a cool and trendy thing for celebs to support these girls and that it became a "Thing", good point.

originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
a reply to: amazing

Kudos to Clinton for posing with them and praising them. If you are a believer in the right to free speech and freedom

Indeed Kudos to Clinton the same Clinton keeps lying.

P Riot are strong women who speak out for what they believe in, even under the threat of Russian Prison sentences. How many of you would be brave enough to voice your opinions if you had that hanging over your head?

The majority of Americans dont even support these women anymore for a reason and strong women? thats rather comical.


. If you are a believer in the right to free speech and freedom in general then you should support p riot. If you do not support them

This is hilarious, so now if i want to support and if i an a believer in the right to free speech and freedom in general then you should support p riot?

This is why i cant take you seriously.

So let's see...because you think Clinton Lied...as do all politicians and leaders, you think that has something to do with supporting priot.

You don't think Priot are strong women...no reason given.
You state that most American's don't support them...no reason give. The same Americans that watch Honey booboo and Guys with Beards that hunt ducks every night.

and let's bring it around then, are you a believer in free speech and the right to speak out and protest political leaders? If you are, then why would you not support a group that routinely speaks out against corrupt leaders.

We need answers. I'm intrigued by your philosophy

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
a reply to: amazing

Kudos to Clinton for posing with them and praising them. If you are a believer in the right to free speech and freedom

Indeed Kudos to Clinton the same Clinton keeps lying.

P Riot are strong women who speak out for what they believe in, even under the threat of Russian Prison sentences. How many of you would be brave enough to voice your opinions if you had that hanging over your head?

The majority of Americans dont even support these women anymore for a reason and strong women? thats rather comical.


. If you are a believer in the right to free speech and freedom in general then you should support p riot. If you do not support them

This is hilarious, so now if i want to support and if i an a believer in the right to free speech and freedom in general then you should support p riot?

This is why i cant take you seriously.

So let's see...because you think Clinton Lied...as do all politicians and leaders, you think that has something to do with supporting priot.

You don't think Priot are strong women...no reason given.
You state that most American's don't support them...no reason give. The same Americans that watch Honey booboo and Guys with Beards that hunt ducks every night.

and let's bring it around then, are you a believer in free speech and the right to speak out and protest political leaders? If you are, then why would you not support a group that routinely speaks out against corrupt leaders.

We need answers. I'm intrigued by your philosophy

You may find yourself wanting. A casual look at Agent's post history demonstrate he DOES support speaking out against corrupt governments, unless said government is Russia, then it's all flowers and sunshine and kitten rainbows.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

And of course we have the fist being raised on RATM's Battle of Los Angeles cover.


Hunter S. Thompson used the raised fist as the basis for his Gonzo fist.


Even Russia's Communist Party has used the iconography of the raised fist throughout its history.
[img]http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/communist-flags-raised-fist-revolutionary-youth-league-bolshevik-parade-veterans-world-war-ii-nevsky-33905992.jpg[ /img]


But of course this ignores the lengthy history of the symbol which dates back to at least the 18th century. It became the logo for the Industrial Workers or the World in 1917. But they were just the first of many groups who would employ the symbol as solidarity among oppressed peoples. Here's a list of some of the organizations and movements that have used the fist as their logo. But I'm sure they were all just trying to further the US hegemony even those who seemed to be fighting against that exact thing.

African National Congress
Albanian National Liberation Front
April 6 Youth Movement
American Indian Movement
Anarchist Black Cross
Azanian People's Organisation
Badr Organization
Black Panther Party
Communist Refoundation Party
Democratic Forum for Labour and Liberties
Democratic Labour Party of Brazil
Democratic Patriots' Movement
E Clampus Vitus
Earth First!
Egyptian Social Democratic Party
Egyptian Socialist Party
Dutch Labor Party
Food Not Bombs
Hezbollah
Industrial Workers of the World
International Brigades
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
International Socialist Organization
Internationalist Workers' Left (Greece)
Italian Communist Party
Italian General Confederation of Labour
Italian Radical Party
Jewish Defense League
Kach
Kurdistan Workers Party and Koma Civaken Kurdistan
Left Ecology Freedom
National Equality March
The New Zealand Herald
Occupy Wall Street
Otpor!
Palestinian Liberation Organization members including Fatah, the PFLP and the DFLP
Parti Sosialis Malaysia (Socialist Party of Malaysia)
People's Mujahedin of Iran
People's National Party
People's Self-Defense Political Party
Provisional Irish Republican Army
Revolutionary Front for an Independent East Timor
Revolutionary Socialists (Egypt)
Turkish Revolutionary Socialist Workers' Party
Red Front Fighters' League
Saor Éire (1967–75)
Sinn Féin
Portuguese Socialist Party
Social Democratic Union of Macedonia
Socialist International
Socialist Party of England and Wales
Socialist Workers Party (UK)
Socialist Youth Front
Spanish Republican Armed Forces
Students for a Democratic Society
SWAPO
Unified Socialist Party of Catalonia
United Farm Workers
Women's Liberation
Zimbabwe African National Union – Patriotic Front

a reply to: Xcalibur254

African National Congress
Albanian National Liberation Front
April 6 Youth Movement
American Indian Movement
Anarchist Black Cross
Azanian People's Organisation
Badr Organization
Black Panther Party
Communist Refoundation Party
Democratic Forum for Labour and Liberties
Democratic Labour Party of Brazil
Democratic Patriots' Movement
E Clampus Vitus
Earth First!
Egyptian Social Democratic Party
Egyptian Socialist Party
Dutch Labor Party
Food Not Bombs
Hezbollah
Industrial Workers of the World
International Brigades
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
International Socialist Organization
Internationalist Workers' Left (Greece)
Italian Communist Party
Italian General Confederation of Labour
Italian Radical Party
Jewish Defense League
Kach
Kurdistan Workers Party and Koma Civaken Kurdistan
Left Ecology Freedom
National Equality March
The New Zealand Herald
Occupy Wall Street
Otpor!
Palestinian Liberation Organization members including Fatah, the PFLP and the DFLP
Parti Sosialis Malaysia (Socialist Party of Malaysia)
People's Mujahedin of Iran
People's National Party
People's Self-Defense Political Party
Provisional Irish Republican Army
Revolutionary Front for an Independent East Timor
Revolutionary Socialists (Egypt)
Turkish Revolutionary Socialist Workers' Party
Red Front Fighters' League
Saor Éire (1967–75)
Sinn Féin
Portuguese Socialist Party
Social Democratic Union of Macedonia
Socialist International
Socialist Party of England and Wales
Socialist Workers Party (UK)
Socialist Youth Front
Spanish Republican Armed Forces
Students for a Democratic Society
SWAPO
Unified Socialist Party of Catalonia
United Farm Workers
Women's Liberation
Zimbabwe African National Union – Patriotic Front

You just had to add some research into this thread...shame on you.