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Coburn is saying that a dysfunctional Congress can provide oversight for another dysfunctional agency in the US government
What a lot of people don't realize is that the Vets do have many ways to get mental healthcare help, a lot of them know what that will entail! Being treated poorly and losing their 2nd amendment rights. These things are first in foremost in their minds when they choose to self medicate with drugs and alcohol. Been there done that, and one of the first things they "the shrinks" do is try to put you in a drug and alcohol program for what? Being honest with them!
Change how you treat patients seeking help! Throwing money at a doctor who is nothing more than a pill factory and rehap pimp will just cause those who need the help to not seek it out!
Sorry, but I am a nut case speaking from experience, not emotional outrage over an issue that many think throwing more money at it will solve the problem....
I hear you and sympathize as well. Liberals in this country have been treating our returning military like criminals since Nam. Now they're in power and it's even more pronounced.
originally posted by: seeker1963
originally posted by: Bilk22
Yes it's Coburn's site and he's telling you exactly why he blocked it. Do you not believe him? He's not running again so he has nothing to hide. He didn't want to throw good money after bad. He's right. They need to fix the VA first before they just had them more millions/billions to waste and not giving the proper treatment and care to our vets. You don't find that honorable? I do and respect what he did. More of the idiots in Washington should be careful of how they spend our money and demand the agencies that receive it are more careful how they administer it. He's not against helping veterans. He's against helping the VA screw up more than they already have. This approach should be taken with all areas of government.
originally posted by: ladyinwaiting
a reply to: Bilk22
Er, what am I missing? Is he blocking it or not? I believe he is. Apparently you and I differ on the definition of the word "honorable".
In no way is this action 'honorable.'
And your source is Colburn's own website? Okay, gotcha. : )
Ah but you're taking a political stance now aren't you? It's not a moral one that's for sure. Well guess Old Tom won't really care as HE'S NOT RUNNING AGAIN! But I bet you'll try to pin this on other Republicans, huh?
What a lot of people don't realize is that the Vets do have many ways to get mental healthcare help, a lot of them know what that will entail! Being treated poorly and losing their 2nd amendment rights. These things are first in foremost in their minds when they choose to self medicate with drugs and alcohol. Been there done that, and one of the first things they "the shrinks" do is try to put you in a drug and alcohol program for what? Being honest with them!
I would be willing to bet that many of their suicides are out of frustration of how the system treats them!
Coburn is right!
Change how you treat patients seeking help! Throwing money at a doctor who is nothing more than a pill factory and rehap pimp will just cause those who need the help to not seek it out!
Sorry, but I am a nut case speaking from experience, not emotional outrage over an issue that many think throwing more money at it will solve the problem....
originally posted by: DexterRiley
a reply to: seeker1963
What a lot of people don't realize is that the Vets do have many ways to get mental healthcare help, a lot of them know what that will entail! Being treated poorly and losing their 2nd amendment rights. These things are first in foremost in their minds when they choose to self medicate with drugs and alcohol. Been there done that, and one of the first things they "the shrinks" do is try to put you in a drug and alcohol program for what? Being honest with them!
Change how you treat patients seeking help! Throwing money at a doctor who is nothing more than a pill factory and rehap pimp will just cause those who need the help to not seek it out!
Sorry, but I am a nut case speaking from experience, not emotional outrage over an issue that many think throwing more money at it will solve the problem....
Well, as far as the treatment problem itself is concerned, we're on the same page. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt, ain't goin back!
Actually what you propose as far as alternative treatment methodologies is a good idea. The problem there is whether the "all-knowing" mental health professionals will accept someone telling them how to do their job. Most of them are locked into a dysfunctional mind-set that completely disregards the uniqueness of the individual. There is only right-think and wrong-think. Then they throw a load of meds at you so that your level of functionality is only slightly higher than the chair you are sitting in.
But, I think this bill was a step in the right direction. At the very least it increases the awareness in Congress of the suicide problem. And virtually anything that can be provided to these honorable former members of the US military is worth it.
dex