Jeb Bush to 'actively explore' 2016 presidential bid

Starting in 2002 or 3 and after much study of the entire Bush family as a dynasty - with particular emphasis on the negative aspects - I started to think of Jeb Bush as president. At first I thought 2012 and was obviously mistaken.

I took a really sound drubbing by many people online for having had the audacity to have made such an outrageous claim which was actually quite understandable given the political climate of the day against the Bush's. Ironically I began to root for Jeb because of the way people were continually beating on me about it.

I then began to realize that Jeb Bush was to be seen as "royalty" (which is what the American presidency really is) and was definitely in line to inherit the presidency and that he would be being steadily groomed for the job, but not until the family rehabilitated itself in the eyes of the public, which it has done successfully - therefore grooming 'princely' Jeb to be all the more palatable in the public mind so as to fulfill the demanding role of the 'royal' presidency, especially following upon the Obama disaster.

First you had a scandal with Prescott Bush, a Wall Street Executive banker. He was dealing with the Nazi's.
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Then you had George H. W. Bush, who did anything to get a war started with Iraq. This was based on lies about Saddam was invading Kuwait, but Russian satellite images proved otherwise.

"That [Iraqi buildup] was the whole justification for Bush sending troops in there, and it just didn't exist," Ms. Heller says. Three times Heller contacted the office of Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney (now vice president) for evidence refuting the Times photos or analysis – offering to hold the story if proven wrong.

The official response: "Trust us." To this day, the Pentagon's photographs of the Iraqi troop buildup remain classified.

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The satellite trick didn't really pay off, so George H. W. Bush had to stage another lie. This time he got the Kuwaiti daughter to lie/testify about how the Iraqi's invaded hospitals, looted the incubators, and threw the newly born children on the cold floor to die. Disgusting twist, of course it was all lies!
Nayirah (testimony)
George H. W. Bush used the lies several times on national media to convince the American people & the World that Saddam was a really bad guy. Oh and yeah, Saddam apparently gassed the Kurdish people, using US weapons. This is why the US knew Iraq had WMD, they sold it to Iraq during the Iran-Iraq conflict. The WMD had a life span, which you can investigate further reading up on Scott Ritter.
Scott Ritter

Now 10 years of cruel sanctions against Iraq followed.

Fast forward to 2001. George W. Bush now has the throne. The terrorist attack on the century happens, and within hours everyone know it was Osama Bin Laden, somehow. The mysteries surrounding the WTC 7 collapse, the NORAD standdown, the insider trading, the possibility of nano-thermite, the follow-the-money-lead that takes you to the top of US power.., countless of other leads...all of that is not worth investigating, somehow. Because it is somehow impossible for any US entity to be involved, it has to be those evil Talebans. And so the war started. Accomplishing absolutely nothing, except making sure that Afghan opium will now flourish.

In July 2000, Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar, collaborating with the United Nations to eradicate heroin production in Afghanistan, declared that growing poppies was un-Islamic, resulting in one of the world's most successful anti-drug campaigns. The Taliban enforced a ban on poppy farming via threats, forced eradication, and public punishment of transgressors. The result was a 99% reduction in the area of opium poppy farming in Taliban-controlled areas, roughly three quarters of the world's supply of heroin at the time.[14] The ban was effective only briefly due to the deposition of the Taliban in 2002.
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Somehow these supersmart drone planes cannot find the poppy fields...

Now forward to 2003. Now suddenly Saddam Hussein is harboring terrorists, and have bought "significant quantities of uranium from Afrika! - according to the British Government", said George Bush. Now the ball was rolling for Iraq. And Bang the invasion was started. No significant WMD's were ever found. Saddam was executed. Now the Sunni and the Shia fractions had free hands. Something Saddam managed to do was to keep these fractions from killing each other. Today they are at all out war. Exactly as planned. Divide and conquer. Small fractions means easy control, and cheap oil for guns, ammo & intel.

Now.. Another BUSH wants the White House. Seriously, do you dare to let that happen?
Not saying that the other candidate, Hillary Clinton, is any better.

Once again America, your democracy limits your choice to choose between two evils.
Democracy - the freedom to choose your own dictator.
In a REAL democracy, you have more choices, sadly your democracy is based on capitalism.. so you are stuck.

We really, really do not want or need political dynasties. No more Bushes, no more Clintons, no more Kennedys, no more Pauls for that matter.

God help America if you guys have to choose between a Bush and a Clinton...

originally posted by: daaskapital
God help America if you guys have to choose between a Bush and a Clinton...

The world approved of Obama, look where that pick went.

a reply to: Indigo5

Anyone who votes for another Bush, is truly an idiot. It will be the same agendas going on behind the scenes as the other two idiots and more make shift wars in islamic countries guaranteed.

I remember when Jeb was governor of florida.

He always seemed to be the middle of the road bush. Not that far to the right.

but you never know how right he will go to win the election.

If he's the nominee, and the right will run so many primary candidates that they will again split the vote, he'll reach right into Ohio for either Kasich or Porter as VP. That may be a winning ticket against Hillary, depending on her VP choice. But if Bush looks like the candidate maybe, just maybe, Hillary will step away and let the primaries decide - and then you have Elizabeth Warren. Warren might be able to take Bush down just because he will then be the old boy candidate, the third in a tired family, and will look like a dynasty candidate against the people's candidate, Warren. So my bottom line, how much does Hillary need this (and Bill along with her). If she decides early not to run, there is a good contest ahead, even if Bush is crowned with the nomination.

Quite frankly, with his passive and indecisive attitude, and his "take it or leave it" approach, I don't want him. We need somebody with passion, honesty, integrity and desire, someone on fire for this country and the common peoples values and needs. We don't need Jeb Bush or anyone like him. He's just another seed in the strawberry Americans are forced to try and treat day after day.

So early to tell anything yet...except for the fact that the Republican primary is going to be just as much of a circus as last time...and I will be watching and laughing at it the entire time. I've already seen many Republicans cry about Jeb Bush because he isn't conservative enough...so we will get to see Jeb sell his soul and try to get further right than his opponents...only to completely damage his own record in the process.

I don't think it will be Clinton vs Bush....I don't think Jeb will make it out of the primaries and I think Hillary is going to be blindsided by Elizabeth Warren.

How about no?

Most conservatives I know don't want to see another damned Bush in office.

I believe he's fairly moderate, overall. But, again, I don't feel right having another Bush in office. That just "seems" like a conspiracy right there. More so than another Clinton.

I'm afraid If I had to choose and I really thought my vote could count, and it was Bush and Clinton, I'd have to go with Clinton?

Please give us different choices!!!!!

I hope he doesn't run, and I hope HIllary doesn't run.

The US is not supposed to be a dynastic government.

Bill and the Bush family are very close friends.

So either one would be a contribution to installing a dynastic government in the US.

Ben Carson is the best bet right now for a President that really cares about the people and not about establishing a power base.

I hope it's Jeb vs Hillary. It will show the world how far we have advanced as a nation (laughingstock) to have another Bush vs Clinton choice, 20+ years later.

originally posted by: grandmakdw
I hope he doesn't run, and I hope HIllary doesn't run.

The US is not supposed to be a dynastic government.

Bill and the Bush family are very close friends.

So either one would be a contribution to installing a dynastic government in the US.

Ben Carson is the best bet right now for a President that really cares about the people and not about establishing a power base.

I'm just not so sure about him. He's a little Hyperbolic, saying things like Obamacare is the worse thing since slavery. Maybe you don't like Obama care but that's quite a stretch. Do we want a president like that?

originally posted by: StoutBroux
Quite frankly, with his passive and indecisive attitude, and his "take it or leave it" approach, I don't want him. We need somebody with passion, honesty, integrity and desire, someone on fire for this country and the common peoples values and needs. We don't need Jeb Bush or anyone like him. He's just another seed in the strawberry Americans are forced to try and treat day after day.

"We need somebody with passion, honesty, integrity and desire, someone on fire for this country and the common peoples values and needs".

Good luck finding a politician with those traits, and it so, bucking the system and not playing the game, to actually get elected.

Here's Bush's Achilles heel, although the Dems usually miss those by at least an ankles length: the same people that his brother hired to surround him will either be on-board Jeb's administration list or will actively support his election. It's not the family repeating as King, it's the people in the court playing the same parts that hurt the world and country the last time that this crew held power. Same with the Clinton's, the same people will be recycled. I wish neither would run, there would be a clean Warren vs. Rand Paul race, and Steven Colbert sitting at 'Late Night' putting everyone in their place. Clinton vs. Bush - almost (but not quite) a depressing thought, yuck.

originally posted by: grandmakdw
I hope he doesn't run, and I hope HIllary doesn't run.

The US is not supposed to be a dynastic government.

Bill and the Bush family are very close friends.

So either one would be a contribution to installing a dynastic government in the US.

Ben Carson is the best bet right now for a President that really cares about the people and not about establishing a power base.

Ben Carson is a joke.

He is focused on his marketability...not his electability...that is why he says the crazy things he says. He knows Conservatives will flock to a black man bashing democrats...and he knows that it will fill up his pockets.

He may enter the primary for visibility and profit...but not as a serious contender.

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: grandmakdw
I hope he doesn't run, and I hope HIllary doesn't run.

The US is not supposed to be a dynastic government.

Bill and the Bush family are very close friends.

So either one would be a contribution to installing a dynastic government in the US.

Ben Carson is the best bet right now for a President that really cares about the people and not about establishing a power base.

I'm just not so sure about him. He's a little Hyperbolic, saying things like Obamacare is the worse thing since slavery. Maybe you don't like Obama care but that's quite a stretch. Do we want a president like that?

I want a President who cares more about serving the people than serving the Party and a failed ideology

(extreme socialism has failed around the world and mostly socialist countries are reverting to a more capitalist way).

I want a President who thinks controlling every aspect of every individual's lives is wrong and that people can think and decide for themselves.

I want a President who is not interested in investigating the tiniest aspect of each person's life in the USA to maintain control and have "something" to blackmail and control each individual in the US.



Socialized medicine is a form of extreme control,
even now in highly social countries there has been legislation allowing physicians to put very the very sick in coma's
and not feed them or give them hydration to allow them to die, for the good of society
and the finances of the health care system.
All in the name of compassion, just as Obama is for killing babies born alive during failed late term abortions.
The people no longer have to give consent for euthanasia, but must have a directive that forbids it for it not to happen in at least one country. www.theguardian.com...

Also so far what Obamacare has accomplished is to drastically increase the cost of health insurance
and actually has left millions of people uninsured.
www.washingtonpost.com...

originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: grandmakdw
I hope he doesn't run, and I hope HIllary doesn't run.

The US is not supposed to be a dynastic government.

Bill and the Bush family are very close friends.

So either one would be a contribution to installing a dynastic government in the US.

Ben Carson is the best bet right now for a President that really cares about the people and not about establishing a power base.

Ben Carson is a joke.

He is focused on his marketability...not his electability...that is why he says the crazy things he says. He knows Conservatives will flock to a black man bashing democrats...and he knows that it will fill up his pockets.

He may enter the primary for visibility and profit...but not as a serious contender.

What you are saying is exactly what the powers that be want you to think.

The media is complicit in helping the powers that be control the minds of the people
through little bits of pieces of propaganda memes in real news stories.

It is the same way they destroyed the original Tea Party,
leaving only the weirdos behind,
because the good people believed the propaganda of the media
because the powers that be are threatened by a populist movement
and will do anything to shut it down.

The media will probably support a Bush/Clinton rematch
because both families are already under the thumb of the exact same people
who are really in control. Do we really want that?

Isn't it time we the people stood up and took a chance
on someone outside the established perimeters
set by those who are intent on controlling us
and holding us virtual hostages and slaves to their agenda and needs?
Even if there are one or two things we disagree with?

What is more important, agreeing will all the policies of staged and stooged party hacks,
or agreeing with most of what someone
who is fairly free of parties and independent minded
and has the true best interest of the people at heart
rather than the best interest of the party or the powers that be?