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To be honest, I think you are just mad that I slammed the Ten Commandments.
originally posted by: intrptr
I was trying to point out its not about religion, according to the student. Personally, I think the religious overtones therein are misleading and a control trip placed on people by Organized Religion.
But his engaging in protest about the schools decision to take dow a plaque there is not a religious move on his part its a challenge to the authority of the school through lawful protest. Thats what I am commending him for, and called you on.
I think that kid sees plenty past his own nose to be aware enough about things like that.
originally posted by: Grovit
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Grovit
he will soon realize that high school did not matter in the big picture of life.
Only morons think that.
Everyones life matters, and every part of it is important. I give him kudos for being the only kid to try and teach the other kids something they will never learn in "public school".
i think the people that believe high school actually matters/mattered in the big picture of life are the morons.
the people that believe high school will be or was their 'wonder years'
hahahah
high school is a mere blip of unimportant #
i dont mean the education...i mean all the other crap
means nothing
its not wonderful....
maybe for the prom queen that is/was oh so popular and everyone loved her...yeah, i could see that being the best time of her life.
you know, now that she is on her 3rd marriage and 5th kid its understandable.
I see, STILL, no one has addressed my counter idea to display the Bill of Rights.
A gift to the Harding High School from its graduating class of 1953, the plaque had hung next to the Preamble of the United States Constitution until it was removed by the Marion City School District.
The plaque was removed over the summer, but freshman Anthony Miller only decided to go on strike when he learned that its removal was permanent.
He and other students are also circulating a petition demanding the plaque be replaced.
“Until there is at least some agreement made between the administration and the students,” Miller said, he will continue his strike.
Principal Kirk Koennecke said that he plans to meet with Miller and other concerned students on January 6 to discuss alternative locations for the plaque.
originally posted by: intrptr
The preamble to the constitution is still there on the wall.
So he's protesting to garner attention,(which is working), circulating a petition, and practicing civil disobedience by not doing homework, wearing his school shirt or attending activities.
Apparently all this "activism" is working…
I don't care what his grievance is about, its a wonderful lesson for us all.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
To be honest, I think you are just mad that I slammed the Ten Commandments. But at the end of the day, it is a religious artifact and secular and non-Christian students don't need to see it. If the kid was TRULY looking to display a document for the kids to learn by and exemplify, then there are plenty of good secular documents to display, like the Bill of Rights or the Constitution. Almost half of the Ten Commandments don't apply to non-Christians, so it is unimportant to them.
Maybe if the kid actually STUDIED those documents instead of religious documents like the Ten Commandments, he'd know that the Ten Commandments are a religious artifact, with the Bill of Rights outlining that religion and government need to be separate (yes I know it doesn't specifically spell out separation of church and state, but the wording definitely implies it).
If these factors provide a strong, but not conclusive, indication that the Commandments' text on this monument conveys a predominantly secular message, a further factor is determinative here. As far as I can tell, 40 years passed in which the presence of this monument, legally speaking, went unchallenged (until the single legal objection raised by petitioner). And I am not aware of any evidence suggesting that this was due to a climate of intimidation. Hence, those 40 years suggest more strongly than can any set of formulaic tests that few individuals, whatever their system of beliefs, are likely to have understood the monument as amounting, in any significantly detrimental way, to a government effort to favor a particular religious sect, primarily to promote religion over nonreligion, to "engage in" any "religious practic[e]," to "compel" any "religious practic[e]," or to "work deterrence" of any "religious belief." Schempp, 374 U. S., at 305 (Goldberg, J., concurring). Those 40 years suggest that the public visiting the capitol grounds has considered the religious aspect of the tablets' message as part of what is a broader moral and historical message reflective of a cultural heritage.
Well I give him props for the petition, the other things are useless.
He's not putting up a fit. He's standing up.
And believe me, at the root of it all is because it's the 10 Commandments.
originally posted by: XP100
a reply to: olaru12
I think the kids should be forced to tithe 10% of their lunch money. To me. They should also receive communion during homeroom, and read the Torah or Quran aloud on stage during assemblies. Hall monitors will be replaced with altar boys. Graduation ceremonies will be replaced with Bar and Bat Mitzvas. Then Anthony can resume schoolwork and wearing his band tee-shirt. There, now that that's done, what's next on the agenda?