dick cheney says he would torture again

originally posted by: Yeahkeepwatchingme
a reply to: Sremmos80

Of course it's not a big deal. What with the partisan nonsense always demonizing the right, the internet shills jumping to shut down all criticism, the media cleaning up after him and the race card.

You're kidding right? I see the exact opposite, looking in from the outside. Plus the "martyr card".

a reply to: intrepid

No I'm not kidding. Two party politics is total nonsense but the media's been protecting Obama like a saint. To me he's just as dumb as Bush and the rest of them.

a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

Two party politics is total nonsense

Yeah it is,and the only reason people are rehashing a decade old 'argument'.

a reply to: neo96

Yes the weapons we gave them, still not nukes.
So how had a nuclear attack been avoided?

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

Two party politics is total nonsense

Yeah it is,and the only reason people are rehashing a decade old 'argument'.

“Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.” Edmund Burke

www.goodreads.com...

And if you're going to learn might as well take lessons from the Master.

a reply to: neo96

I'm sure this administration has secret prisons too among other things. Considering how nothing changes every four years, I doubt certain ways of keeping "a safe nation" change as well.

No matter what party, it's an embarrassment and as corrupt as the rest.

I don't see any quotes listed in that link ^ But Obama's a part of history too, I hope people remember his legacy...

a reply to: Rosinitiate

I'll bet his face hurts or something.



Cause it's kill'n me!

The torture never stopped

a reply to: neo96

No it is wrong what barry is doing too, he is even worse with his drones.
It's that people will sit here and say it's no big deal and needed to be done in one breath and the flip around and demonize the man doing it now.
It's either not a big deal for both or a huge deal for both.
I'll go with the latter.

a reply to: randyvs

Did you guys know Cheney/Bush/Obama/political moron in a suit #1 are all public scapegoats? They're taking the blame so their rulers aren't dethroned. As people distract themselves with two-party banter, the real leaders continue to squander resources and murder millions.

And we thought politicians were useless..

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: neo96

Yes the weapons we gave them, still not nukes.
So how had a nuclear attack been avoided?

What's this 'we' bullsnip' ?

Wikipedia's article on Iraq's WMDs gives a good rundown of the international contributions:

All told, 52% of Iraq's international chemical weapon equipment was of German origin.
Around 21% of Iraq’s international chemical weapon equipment was French.
About 100 tons of mustard gas also came from Brazil.
The United Kingdom paid for a chlorine factory that was intended to be used for manufacturing mustard gas An Austrian company gave Iraq calutrons for enriching uranium. The nation also provided heat exchangers, tanks, condensers, and columns for the Iraqi chemical weapons infrastructure, 16% of the international sales.
Singapore gave 4,515 tons of precursors for VX, sarin, tabun, and mustard gasses to Iraq.
The Dutch gave 4,261 tons of precursors for sarin, tabun, mustard, and tear gasses to Iraq.
Egypt gave 2,400 tons of tabun and sarin precursors to Iraq and 28,500 tons of weapons designed for carrying chemical munitions.
India gave 2,343 tons of precursors to VX, tabun, Sarin, and mustard gasses.
Luxemburg gave Iraq 650 tons of mustard gas precursors.
Spain gave Iraq 57,500 munitions designed for carrying chemical weapons. In addition, they provided reactors, condensers, columns and tanks for Iraq’s chemical warfare program, 4.4% of the international sales.
China provided 45,000 munitions designed for chemical warfare. Another article I found has a nice graphic with some more information (click to enlarge):

We eh.

Who said avoided ?

Said we have been damn lucky so far.

dick cheney says he would torture again?

He tortures us every time he speaks.
His Rino/neo-con/progressive allies torture us every time they push their agenda.

We are tortured as we see this nation crumble by everything he says and does.

His motto should be "we are saving the constitution by destroying the constitution." That pretty much sums up the Rino/neo-con/progressive tortured logic.

a reply to: intrepid

Miss the history there?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

I'm sure this administration has secret prisons too among other things. Considering how nothing changes every four years, I doubt certain ways of keeping "a safe nation" change as well.

They already do. They do it on ships now. Well away from prying eyes.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: intrepid

Miss the history there?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Did you miss the part where I said, "Learn from the Master?"

a reply to: neo96

Exactly. And Obama's admin expanded all the things Bush did. Patriot Act, the war on terror, DHS, the stagnating economy, ever-widening class divisions, loss of rights, drones.

He's not blameless, he's complicit imo.

a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

Did I know?
Pretty much. But what does that have to do with his face?

a reply to: randyvs

Mock him but don't hate him. They, the true TPTB (and not the fancy, inbred names in that thread) use the big names to distract people. They want you to direct hatred at him. Mocking is more fun and expends less energy.

a reply to: intrepid

The CIA were masters when it was the OSS.

They have honed their skills on every continent for the last 60+ years

From Da Nang, Vietname to Honduras to all parts in between,

The Cold War to The War on Drugs to it's latest incarnation.

The War on terror.

I know the history.

I wish others did.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: intrepid

The CIA were masters when it was the OSS.

You want to bring HW into this now?

a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

I really don't know the man, so that makes it tuff
to actually hate him. I don't really hate anyone.
But I'm willing to learn when it comes to psychopathic
baby bombers like this guy. And all the rest of 'em.